Husky, reason should always supercedede dogma, where is doubt about that?
You had quoted from the book of christianism to show how child-beating is prescribed there, and which to you apparently is a horrible thing in itself, and those christians consider it their religious duty, which is also a terribly bad thing. I was trying to show you, that at least child-beating can be found very much in our traditions too, and in itself is not a bad thing. Calling it "domestic violence" is a modern western notion, and is far from the traditional Indian ways of teaching a child. As far as using mild spanking for educating/disciplining a child (not too young, not too old) is concerned, I think India has found it useful for a long time, and I don't see any problem with it. Of course extremes are bad in anything.
By the way, when I was studying in class 3rd and 4th, we used to have this teacher in my village school, Pandit Bramhanand Sharma his name, and he used to teach us Maths, Sanskrit, and some more subjects as the need be.. and as the nature of these subjects was, at least back then, it demanded a lot of things to be memorized. Dozens of tables in maths as well as countless dhAtu-rUpa tables in Skt (which used to sound like endless), and all that. But the fear of the "chhadee" (cane) of Panditji was such, that whatever we remembered those days has stayed till date, while many other things have evapoated. That cane was not merely for showing, it used to be practiced too, even though mildly. I am sure he would be put in jail had he been in enlightened countries! And today, I don't remember that time as a bitter period.
Coming to extending this child-beating to fear-psychosis in christianism, as proposed in one article on page you linked to. Those people who nurture this notion so popular these days, that "normative" and all that is only limited to mlechCha religions, have not read our purANa-s. Why is there a very well formed concept of pApa and resulting sojourn in naraka-lokas, if not to stop humans from uninhabitedly doing what one just "likes"? Although the concept of naraka is different from "eternal hell", and qualifications of visiting naraka and hell (as well as swarga and heaven) are also different, but the primary drivers behind the concepts remain: fear and allurement -- for restricting ordinary people from doing "bad" things and encouraging to do "good" things. Main difference is, here emphasis is on "doing", not "believing" like in those religions.
Fear is an essencial part of growing up in dharma too. Affecion does ot last without a fear of reprimand. 'bhaya vinu hoya na preeti", says tulasIdAsa.
You had quoted from the book of christianism to show how child-beating is prescribed there, and which to you apparently is a horrible thing in itself, and those christians consider it their religious duty, which is also a terribly bad thing. I was trying to show you, that at least child-beating can be found very much in our traditions too, and in itself is not a bad thing. Calling it "domestic violence" is a modern western notion, and is far from the traditional Indian ways of teaching a child. As far as using mild spanking for educating/disciplining a child (not too young, not too old) is concerned, I think India has found it useful for a long time, and I don't see any problem with it. Of course extremes are bad in anything.
By the way, when I was studying in class 3rd and 4th, we used to have this teacher in my village school, Pandit Bramhanand Sharma his name, and he used to teach us Maths, Sanskrit, and some more subjects as the need be.. and as the nature of these subjects was, at least back then, it demanded a lot of things to be memorized. Dozens of tables in maths as well as countless dhAtu-rUpa tables in Skt (which used to sound like endless), and all that. But the fear of the "chhadee" (cane) of Panditji was such, that whatever we remembered those days has stayed till date, while many other things have evapoated. That cane was not merely for showing, it used to be practiced too, even though mildly. I am sure he would be put in jail had he been in enlightened countries! And today, I don't remember that time as a bitter period.
Coming to extending this child-beating to fear-psychosis in christianism, as proposed in one article on page you linked to. Those people who nurture this notion so popular these days, that "normative" and all that is only limited to mlechCha religions, have not read our purANa-s. Why is there a very well formed concept of pApa and resulting sojourn in naraka-lokas, if not to stop humans from uninhabitedly doing what one just "likes"? Although the concept of naraka is different from "eternal hell", and qualifications of visiting naraka and hell (as well as swarga and heaven) are also different, but the primary drivers behind the concepts remain: fear and allurement -- for restricting ordinary people from doing "bad" things and encouraging to do "good" things. Main difference is, here emphasis is on "doing", not "believing" like in those religions.
Fear is an essencial part of growing up in dharma too. Affecion does ot last without a fear of reprimand. 'bhaya vinu hoya na preeti", says tulasIdAsa.