<!--QuoteBegin-Bharatvarsh+Jun 3 2009, 08:10 PM-->QUOTE(Bharatvarsh @ Jun 3 2009, 08:10 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Even in the West "liberal" means different things, the term originally denoted libertarians/classical liberals (Bastiat, Mises, Hayek, Rothbard) before it was hijacked by commies/socialists like Bill Maher (though the idiot calls himself libertarian, he is nothing of the sort) who started calling themselves liberal.
[right][snapback]98266[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->But then that's just the usual communist tactic: to steal strategic words in order to use it for themselves. Like their talking about "The People" while massacring the said people. Or like the communist party in Nepal calling itself 'democratic' since they know it will win instant sympathy from the west (and from any Nepalese who's heard of the benefits of 'democracy'), especially as an offset against what's called the "Hindu monarchy" of Nepal (which sets off sirens of 'Totalitarianism!' in the minds of the post-consciously-christian west).
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->This term makes no sense at all in the Indian context<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->What christowestern term <i>does</i> make sense in the Indian context? (In a funny way, when taken literally, even the term atheist doesn't mean the same from the Hindu position: theism is belief in theos, the Greek word for christian gawd - this is IIRC; but check with those who know. In the literal sense, that makes Hindus uniformly atheist then.)
Psecular Indians are copycattists. They like to belong to the west in some way since they are made to imagine it is progressive and their own world is regressive - they're alienated from their own society by fictions about themselves and about the west. As they can only belong to the west ideologically, one hears self-titled albums like "I'm a Freethinking Rationalistic, Humanistic, Secular, Liberal/Conservative, Progressive, Loose and Forward (wo)man."
[right][snapback]98266[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->But then that's just the usual communist tactic: to steal strategic words in order to use it for themselves. Like their talking about "The People" while massacring the said people. Or like the communist party in Nepal calling itself 'democratic' since they know it will win instant sympathy from the west (and from any Nepalese who's heard of the benefits of 'democracy'), especially as an offset against what's called the "Hindu monarchy" of Nepal (which sets off sirens of 'Totalitarianism!' in the minds of the post-consciously-christian west).
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->This term makes no sense at all in the Indian context<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->What christowestern term <i>does</i> make sense in the Indian context? (In a funny way, when taken literally, even the term atheist doesn't mean the same from the Hindu position: theism is belief in theos, the Greek word for christian gawd - this is IIRC; but check with those who know. In the literal sense, that makes Hindus uniformly atheist then.)
Psecular Indians are copycattists. They like to belong to the west in some way since they are made to imagine it is progressive and their own world is regressive - they're alienated from their own society by fictions about themselves and about the west. As they can only belong to the west ideologically, one hears self-titled albums like "I'm a Freethinking Rationalistic, Humanistic, Secular, Liberal/Conservative, Progressive, Loose and Forward (wo)man."
Death to traitors.

