[center]<b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>Shaukat Aziz in the dock</span></b>[/center]
<b>LAHORE : Disgraced former Prime Minister, Shaukat Aziz who was denied a PML-Q ticket by the party leadership, has now sunk in a deep morass and has been accused of misuse of official power and criminal mismanagement. Highly placed official sources have confided with The Frontier Post that the privatization of Pakistan Steel Mills and certain aspects of Habib Bank were under scrutiny that could land Shaukat Aziz in deep trouble.</b> The government at one point considered to place the name of Shaukat Aziz on the exit control list, but certain high level quarter decided to keep the matter pending and a decision on the issue may be taken at some later stage.
The Pakistani Prime Minister was lambasted by US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in her book âTwice as Goodâ where she made cutting remarks about shaukat Aziz for his ungentlemanly behavior putting the entire Pakistani nation to shame. It was Shaukat Aziz who subverted all the good work undertaken by President Musharraf by advising him through a reference against former Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry that triggered social unrest in the country and wide protest demonstrations were held everywhere. Preliminary investigation into various allegations against Shaukat Aziz continues, but insiders believe that there was enough evidence to indict the former Prime Minister on these charges.
<b>Sources also told The Frontier Post that Shaukat Aziz could face charges regarding misuse of discretionary and secret funds that were at his disposal and amounted to plunder of the countryâs wealth.</b> A powerful lobby in the PML(Q) was pushing hard for action against Shaukat Aziz with some of them willing to testify against their former boss. <b>After incriminating evidence against Shaukat Aziz, the president was forced to abandon his erstwhile political ally at the last minute and the name of the former Prime Minister was dropped at the eleventh hour from the list of PML(Q) candidates for the National Assembly.</b>
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<b>Concern over short supply of rice paddy</b>
KARACHI - The Union of Small and Medium Enterprises (UNISAME) has invited the attention of the Ministry of Commerce (MoC) to the adverse situation faced by the parboiling units of rice due to the paddy being purchased by the rice sellers cartel who have out smarted the parboilers of rice.
<b>The union has regretted that due to increasing demand of Arabian and African countries, the SMEs invested in parboiling plants that they imported from India at high cost</b> and now the industry is suffering due to short supply of paddy, which goes to the shellers for the preparation of white rice.
UNISAME President Zulfikar Thaver said the SME rice parboiling units are facing a very tough situation due to the higher prices for paddy of different varieties being paid to the growers by the shellers who lift the paddy by paying better prices to the growers leaving the parboiling units deprived of regular supplies at reasonable prices.
<b>He said that if the supplies to the parboiling units are not ensured the units will have to close down and the parboiled rice market developed by exporters after many efforts will be lost to India again.</b> <!--emo&:flush--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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<b> Destroyed CIA Tapes Revealed Pak-Saudi Connection to 9/11</b>
December 7, 2007
On December 5, the CIA's director, General Michael V. Hayden, issued a statement disclosing that in 2005 at least two videotapes of interrogations with al Qaeda prisoners were destroyed. The tapes, which the CIA did not provide to either the 9/11 Commission, nor to a federal court in the case of Zacarias Moussaoui, were destroyed, claimed Hayden, to protect the safety of undercover operatives.
Hayden did not disclose one of the al Qaeda suspects whose tapes were destroyed. But he did identify the other. It was Abu Zubaydah, the top ranking terror suspect when he was tracked and captured in Pakistan in 2003.
In September 2006, at a press conference in which he defended American interrogation techniques, President Bush also mentioned Abu Zubaydah by name. Bush acknowledged that Zubaydah, who was wounded when captured, did not initially cooperate with his interrogators, but that eventually when he did talk, his information was, according to Bush, "quite important."
In my 2003 New York Times bestseller, Why America Slept: The Failure to Prevent 9/11, I discussed Abu Zubaydah at length in Chapter 19, "The Interrogation." There I set forth how Zubaydah initially refused to help his American captors.
Also, disclosed was how U.S. intelligence established a so-called "fake flag" operation, in which the wounded Zubaydah was transferred to Afghanistan under the ruse that he had actually been turned over to the Saudis.
The Saudis had him on a wanted list, and the Americans believed that Zubaydah, fearful of torture and death at the hands of the Saudis, would start talking when confronted by U.S. agents playing the role of Saudi intelligence officers.
Instead, when confronted by his "Saudi" interrogators, Zubaydah showed no fear. Instead, according to the two U.S. intelligence sources that provided me the details, he seemed relieved. The man who had been reluctant to even confirm his identity to his U.S. captors, suddenly talked animatedly.
He was happy to see them, he said, because he feared the Americans would kill him. He then asked his interrogators to call a senior member of the Saudi royal family. And Zubaydah provided a private home number and a cell phone number from memory. "He will tell you what to do," Zubaydah assured them
That man was Prince Ahmed bin Salman bin Abdul-Aziz, one of King Fahd's nephews, and the chairman of the largest Saudi publishing empire. Later, American investigators would determine that Prince Ahmed had been in the U.S. on 9/11.
American interrogators used painkillers to induce Zubaydah to talk -- they gave him the meds when he cooperated, and withdrew them when he was quiet. They also utilized a thiopental sodium drip (a so-called truth serum). Several hours after he first fingered Prince Ahmed, his captors challenged the information, and said that since he had disparaged the Saudi royal family, he would be executed. It was at that point that some of the secrets of 9/11 came pouring out.
In a short monologue, that one investigator told me was the "Rosetta Stone" of 9/11, Zubaydah laid out details of how he and the al Qaeda hierarchy had been supported at high levels inside the Saudi and Pakistan governments.
He named two other Saudi princes, and also the chief of Pakistan's air force, as his major contacts. Moreover, he stunned his interrogators, by charging that two of the men, the King's nephew, and the Pakistani Air Force chief, knew a major terror operation was planned for America on 9/11.
It would be nice to further investigate the men named by Zubaydah, but that is not possible. All four identified by Zubaydah are now dead. As for the three Saudi princes, the King's 43-year-old nephew, Prince Ahmed, died of either a heart attack or blood clot, depending on which report you believe, after having liposuction in Riyadh's top hospital; the second, 41-year-old Prince Sultan bin Faisal bin Turki al-Saud, died the following day in a one car accident, on his way to the funeral of Prince Ahmed; and one week later, the third Saudi prince named by Zubaydah, 25-year-old Prince Fahd bin Turki bin Saud al-Kabir, died, according to the Saudi Royal Court, "of thirst." The head of Pakistan's Air Force, Mushaf Ali Mir, was the last to go. He died, together with his wife and fifteen of his top aides, when his plane blew up -- suspected as sabotage -- in February 2003. Pakistan's investigation of the explosion -- if one was even done -- has never been made public.
Zubaydah is the only top al Queda operative who has secretly linked two of America's closest allies in the war on terror -- Saudi Arabia and Pakistan -- to the 9/11 attacks. Why does Bush, and the CIA, continue to protect the Saudi Royal family and the Pakistani military, from the implications of Zubaydah's confessions? It is, or course, because the Bush administration desperately needs Pakistani and Saudi help, not only to keep Afghanistan from spinning completely out of control, but also as counterweights to the growing power of Iran.
The Sunni governments in Riyadh and Islamabad have as much to fear from a resurgent Iran as does the Bush administration. But does this mean that leads about the origins of 9/11 should not be aggressively pursued? Of course not. But this is precisely what the Bush administration is doing. And now the cover-up is enhanced by the CIA's destruction of Zubaydah's interrogation tapes.
The American public deserves no less than the complete truth about 9/11. And those CIA officials now complicit in hiding the truth by destroying key evidence should be held responsible.
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This will help in educating the public in US about the true character of the pakistani state. IF members can help this process by spreading the word about the paki connnection to 9/11 terror attacks.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->He named two other Saudi princes, and also the chief of Pakistan's air force, as his major contacts. Moreover, he stunned his interrogators, by charging that two of the men, the King's nephew, and the Pakistani Air Force chief, knew a major terror operation was planned for America on 9/11.
It would be nice to further investigate the men named by Zubaydah, but that is not possible. All four identified by Zubaydah are now dead. As for the three Saudi princes, the King's 43-year-old nephew, Prince Ahmed, died of either a heart attack or blood clot, depending on which report you believe, after having liposuction in Riyadh's top hospital; the second, 41-year-old Prince Sultan bin Faisal bin Turki al-Saud, died the following day in a one car accident, on his way to the funeral of Prince Ahmed; and one week later, the third Saudi prince named by Zubaydah, 25-year-old Prince Fahd bin Turki bin Saud al-Kabir, died, according to the Saudi Royal Court, "of thirst." The head of Pakistan's Air Force, Mushaf Ali Mir, was the last to go. He died, together with his wife and fifteen of his top aides, when his plane blew up -- suspected as sabotage -- in February 2003. Pakistan's investigation of the explosion -- if one was even done -- has never been made public.
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This is not a new information but people in India who had shut their head when it comes to Muslim appeasement especially Pakistan and Indian Muslim should read hundred times.
[center]<b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>ECONOMIST : THE WORLD IN 2OO8 - Countries The world in figures</span></b>[/center]
<b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>INDIA :</span></b>
GDP growth : 7.9%
GDP : $1.33trn (PPP: $5.31trn)
Inflation : 5.2%
Population : 1.13bn
<b>GDP per head : $1,180 (PPP: $4,720)</b>
<b><span style='color:green'>PAKISTAN :</span></b>
GDP growth : 5.9%
GDP : $157bn (PPP: $492bn)
Inflation : 6.3%
Population : 167.2m
<b>GDP per head : $940 (PPP: $2,940)</b>
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[center]<b><span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>The Captive State : Corruption, Intelligence Agencies, and Ethnicity in Pakistan : Oskar Verkaaik</span></b>[/center]
A Detailed Account of the Pakjabi Stranglehold in Pakistan
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Hi Mudy,
I just arrived at IF and was surfing this thread till I came upon this:
<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Dec 4 2007, 12:32 PM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Dec 4 2007, 12:32 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Morons in India who use Urdu somehow are either clueless or they are after all morons.
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I am already in the "moron" category because I am proud of the Urdu heritage ... now, please explain why I am also "clueless" ...
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Read history of Urdu, why, where and how it came into origin.
Also read Stockholm Syndrome.
Stick to thread topic.
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By Khalid Hasnain
KHANEWAL, Dec 8: A former MPA and his brother have allegedly occupied nine acres of land meant for building a private hospital by an expatriate Pakistani doctor in Jahanian along with another 11 acres of his ancestral land, while his father has appealed to higher authorities to provide them justice.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Dec 9 2007, 09:00 PM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Dec 9 2007, 09:00 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I am already in the "moron" category because I am proud of the Urdu heritage ... now, please explain why I am also "clueless" ... <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Read history of Urdu, why, where and how it came into origin.
Also read Stockholm Syndrome.
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That's rich coming from someone typing in English ...
please read said "syndrome" ... <!--emo&:clapping--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/clap.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='clap.gif' /><!--endemo-->
may I edit: "Morons from India who use English are clueless or they are already morons" ...
fits the bill?
while we are on "history", I hope you are familiar with the history of what we now call "Hindi" ...
my grandma could read Pali and Brahmi ... she thought Hindi speakers were "corrupt newbies" and put more faith in Bhojpuri and Avadhi ...
my grandfather would converse in Sanskrit with my father ... but he also knew Urdu and English ...
<i>Sa Vidya Ya Vimuktaye </i>... true knowledge is that which liberates ... not which language it is delivered in ...
dissing languages based on one's parochial mindset is hardly enlightened ... <!--emo& --><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
in fact, I recommend a study of Urdu to enhance some aspects of your appreciation of life and nature ...
<b>Four killed in attack on PPP election office</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->QUETTA, Dec 8: Four people, including an attacker, were killed and another was injured when unidentified men opened fire on their rivals in a village near Dera Murad Jamali of the Nasirabad district on Saturday.
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<b>Suicide bomber rams into Pak schoolbus</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Islamabad: A suicide bomber struck a bus carrying schoolchildren on Monday morning at a military base in northwestern Pakistan, wounding at least five of the children, an army spokesman said.
The attack happened at the army's base at Kamra, and the wounded children were being transported to a hospital, Maj Gen. Arshad Waheed said.
''This barbaric attack shows how cruel the terrorists are,'' he said, adding that the bus driver and a guard also were injured
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Shri Alak Niranjan Ji,
Perhaps you have been unable to comprehend the thinking in the minds of the bloggers with whom you have been interacting.The following are the wishful thinking of most of them:-
1. How to get rid of Muslims from this world.
2. How to remove Pakistan from the map of the world.
3. How to remove traces of Urdu language from the conscious and sub conscious state of mind of the human race.
4. Hindu gagaran at the earliest, first in India and than in the entire universe.
5. Establishment of Hindu Talabani form of society etc.All meat eaters to be termed as trators.
I just gave you the highlight of the wish list. If you have ample time to devote in day dreaming, this is the best company that one can have for relaxing .
Jai Hind
Naresh Ji,
You must also add one more curious fact about Urdu in the long and very interesting list you have provided.
Of all the scheduled languages that are printed on the Indian currency, only two languages are not state languages of any state - Sanskrit and Kashmiri. Urdu is the official state language of only one state in India. That is Jammu and Kashmir. Why is Urdu the state language of Jammu & Kashmir and not Kashmiri?
Please ask Hoori-at conference whose love for Kashmiriyat is well known, or to National conference and ruling Congress party and PDP.
Also those who have mentioned Bhojpuri and Awadhi (vs Hindi) would do well to ask Mulayam Singh why Urdu is declared as the second language of Uttar Pradesh and not either Bhojpuri, Awadhi, Bundelkhandi or Braj - each of which has a larger following than Urdu in the state? Same question should be posed to the congress party in Karnataka - why Urdu is the second state language and not Telugu or other languages which are spoken more in the state and have a much larger affinity with Kannada?
By the way "Urdu" derives from the same root word from which âHoardâ is derived.
12-10-2007, 05:51 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-10-2007, 06:08 PM by Bharatvarsh.)
Ravish what about your wish list, does it include the following:
1) Being a good dhimmi loser
2) Keeping the rest of the indians the same way
3) Talking nonsense
Going by your constant asskissing of Muslims, you will make a good dhimmi I am sure.
As for Urdu, ya the people "proud" of Urdu "heritage" can learn it at their leisure but there will be no place for it officially because there are other native languages who have more speakers who don't get recognised as the second language.
Jai Hind (oops maybe we should stop saying that, it might offend your beloved Muslims).
12-10-2007, 06:11 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-10-2007, 06:19 PM by Bharatvarsh.)
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This should be changed ASAP if it's still the same, nothing but dhimminess, in Karnataka how many people use Urdu in daily life?
Tulu has far more speakers there.
In UP it's the same case.
12-10-2007, 07:12 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-11-2007, 12:33 AM by Bodhi.)
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Posted online: Monday , December 10, 2007
Islamabad, December 10: Pakistan's Muslims, including women and adolescents, are more prone to becoming addicted to liquor than members of other communities, says a new study.
Through data collected over five years, Waseem Haider, a surgeon at the Medico-Legal Punjab office in Lahore, found that addiction to alcohol is far higher among Muslim men and women in urban areas than members of the Christian, Hindu and other minority communities.
The age-wise analysis of cases shows that even children aged between 10 and 15 years were consuming alcohol.
The highest number of cases -- 42.56 per cent -- involved teenagers and young adults between 16 and 25 years.
The Pakistan government introduced strict restrictions on the sale and consumption of liquor in 1977 and alcohol is sold only to non-Muslims possessing special permits through some 60 outlets across the country.
http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Pa...-others/248739/
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Why is it illegal for the faithfuls to practice for the after-life in jannat? And are the rest getting intoxicated listening to beautiful Urdu gazals?
Yes Bharatvarsh,
Shame on you. You have not been able to give a single solution to any of the points made by me. No point in firing blank shorts, talk of some action. To be abusive on me is perhaps the manifestation of your helpless ness. By continue to dream in the fools paradise, you will in no way able to clean up India for the creation of a Hindu rastra. Wake up and give a lead.
Bharat mata ki jai
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1. How to get rid of Muslims from this world.
2. How to remove Pakistan from the map of the world.
3. How to remove traces of Urdu language from the conscious and sub conscious state of mind of the human race.
4. Hindu gagaran at the earliest, first in India and than in the entire universe.
5. Establishment of Hindu Talabani form of society etc.All meat eaters to be termed as trators.
I just gave you the highlight of the wish list. If you have ample time to devote in day dreaming, this is the best company that one can have for relaxing .
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#2 is the odd one out from that list ... I even devote some of my precious time to day dream about that ... <!--emo& tupid--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pakee.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pakee.gif' /><!--endemo-->
(the emoticon set on this forum is certainly moderately enlightened)
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