The ACORN issues is grasping for straws to claim that election was stolen.
The Nevada sec of state and atty general and prosecutor are themselves democrats.
Some links on the ACORN issue..
Everyone remembers Hans Von Spakovsky, right? He's the former official in the Bush Justice Department who got a recess appointment to the FEC but whose nomination failed to get through the Senate because he's made a career of finding ways to restrict access to the polls.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->If you have any question what this ACORN/vote fraud con-job is about. Here's an episode of TPMtv from April 2007. It includes video from a speech Karl Rove gave in April 2006 about claims of election fraud. Rove reels off what he calls the "hot spots". And surprise, surprise: half of them are cases where the US Attorneys ended up getting fired, or were slated to be fired. It's all a scam. Take a look.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
More on the Scam
The GOPâs Fraudulent Claims about Vote Fraud
From Little ACORNS...
McCain attended ACORN rally
The ACORN Attack
On other issue about Troopergate, last Friday, did Palin get same report that was published to rest of nation? Apparently not, going by her reaction. If nose grew every time she lied like it did for Pinnochio, she'd be able to moose-hunt without a gun.
That intrade link posted when McCain was leading by 12 points, today he's trailing by 60 (that's a net 82 drop)!! Even Dow drop's looking a bit decent now with opportunity to get in at support levels.
Currently Democrats are divided, some are doing because they had seen what happened in Primary and election stolen by Obama, so now its sweet revenge. SOme are doing just to stop leftist-Marxist take over of democratic party.
ACRON is a big fraud, it started in Primary funded by Obama. To democracy to survive and confidence it is required to have fair election. This fraud is worse then any 3rd world country. Kerry, Carter and Biden who roam around world to monitor elections should do some work with US.
Regarding troopergate, PDF is available, it came out last week. Why its not a issue, because Obama supporter, Obama Alaska campaign manager promised to deliver October surprise, infact deliver nothing but himself involved in lying on his own Congress paper about his own so called service as Marine. Only thing he came out she didn't stopped her husband to press other staff to take action against Wotten. Not sure how anyone else will react. If someone try to attack my family I will bang every single door. But Gov. husband should not.
And he ignored completly that Democrat investigator and fired staff was making press conference and contacting lobbist against Gov policy and against her advice.
McCain seemed to be decisive winner of tonight's debate.
Obama media is saying Obama is winner.
Joe Plummber will decide this election. Income redistribution are scaring everyone plus tax over 250K.
My prefernce is McCain, he is more experienced and at this crisis situation he is better for country. Obama is too risky. Today on policy they made clear distinction, Obama tried to agree on McCain again and Obama socialism agenda came out in open.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Grading the Final Presidential Debate </b>
By Mark Halperin / Hempstead, New York Wednesday, Oct. 15, 2008
<b>Obama</b>
Substance:
Intelligent, knowledgeable, and an earnest explainer, as always, but to no real effect. Though he conveyed a general sense of his agenda, he did so without bothering to fight ardently for his case.
Grade: B
Style:
Appeared tired and irritable, and bore the ills of a poor make-up job. While initially seeming distracted and even resentful of the evening's activity, he eventually realized he needed to step up his game, and became more conversational and involved. Recovered after the rocky start to avoid anything transformative for his opponent. Grade: B-
Offense:
Rarely went after McCain, and when he did, was indirect and often too vague.
Grade: C+
Defense:
Unrattled by frequent McCain attacks, but a little peevish in addressing the allegations tossed his way. He strained to defend his positions on health care and taxes and failed to express a fully-formed alternative explanation. Relying on polling data to excuse himself for the campaign's negative tone and implicitly for going back on his word on campaign financing, he seemed indifferent towards the recent mutual harsh words, placing the blame firmly with his opposition.
Grade: B+
During the first half of the debate, the Democratic nominee too often displayed his worst traitsâpetty, aloof, imperiousâand behaved as if he had some place better to be, although he became warmer and more engaged as the evening progressed. He did not seem to have an explicit strategy, answering the questions piecemeal as they came his way, without driving a message or even a theme. He retained his consistently unflappable air, and had a few fine moments. If he was sitting on his lead, it workedâbut perhaps at the expense of relinquishing part of it.
<b>Overall grade: B</b>
<b>McCain</b>
<b>Substance:</b>
Avoided the policy weeds, as usual, but sounded more engaged on his economic program, presenting a clear, thematic argument. He was also good on climate change, trade, taxes, and spending. It was an impressive performance from a politician who is generally more comfortable offering broad statements and displaying his compelling personality, than focusing on detail and nitty-gritty.
Grade: A-
Style
For forty minutes, he was cogent, friendly, and yet sharp when he needed to be. Well aware of the stakes and his underdog circumstance, he worked hard to hit all his marks. Showed genuine empathy about the ramifications of the battered economy, small business struggles, and even childhood obesity. But he lost points during the second half of the session by falling back on the awkward, cranky tics that have marred his earlier performances.
Grade: B+
Offense:
Hit Obama again and again, almost always with authority and command rather than desperation. Repeatedly steered the evening's discussion to a plumber named Joe who talked about taxes with Obama during a recent campaign eventâand scored points. He deftly used opposition research on Obama's record, and did so far more effectively than in the first two debates. Skillfully attacked his opponent for not keeping his word on campaign financing and for refusing to hold joint town meetings. At times, though, he became too agitated and lost focus, particularly when he raised the Ayers matterâstill a negative bridge too far for many.
Grade: A-
Defense:
Dramatically proclaimed "I am not President Bush" with toughness and clarity, in one of the few true "moments" in any of the debatesâthe tangible ripple of reaction from the (albeit silent) crowd signaled that the video clip will be replayed many times.
Grade: A-
During the first half of the debate, the Republican nominee showed off the best of himselfâdedicated, sincere, patriotic, cheery, earnest, commandingâall without seeming old or anxious. He even scored some points in the "change" category, against the candidate who has owned the theme. He was also clear, upbeat, and totally on message. To his detriment, however, he became more aggressive and distracted during the second half, and perhaps lost a chance for the truly dramatic event he needs to change the game. Still, if a silent majority of persuadable voters watched the debate, they saw why McCain's advisers have faith in him and still believe he can win this race.
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Every opinion poll - INCLUDING FOX has listed the winner from their focus group results. Guy's please check it. Zingers and gotcha and betcha stuff don't work with independent minded voters.
Mudy: Hillary was on CNN for post debate analysis -check that too.
To put it into prespective, Bush lost most of the debates against Kerry and Gore.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Joe Plummber will decide this election.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Watch for media backlash, McCain camp didn't do their homework? Joe's a registered republican
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Questions were being raised Thursday morning whether Mr. Wurzelbacher is a registered voter.
Linda Howe, executive director of the Lucas County Board of Elections, said a Samuel Joseph Worzelbacher, whose address and age match Joe the Plumberâs, registered in Lucas County on Sept. 10, 1992. He voted in his first primary on March 4, 2008, registering as a Republican.
Ms. Howe said that the name may be misspelled in the database.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Regarding troopergate, PDF is available, it came out last week<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Glad you mention the troopergate doc. Here's a snippet posted by Daily Kos
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Another interesting tidbit from the Branchflower report on Troopergate, from Branchflower's interview with Commissioner of Public Safety Walt Monegan's executive secretary, Cassandra Byrne:
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  MR. BRANCHFLOWER: And then the last call was in April of 2008. I think you told me earlier that he had just gotten back from a legislative session in Juneau, or something. Tell about that, if you would.
  MS. BYRNE: I think that he was disappointed with the legislative decision about budgeting for public safety, and when he came back I asked him how the meetings went, the hearings, et cetera. He said that it was basically very disheartening at the direction that the legislative session had gone because we were not going to receive the funding that we would need.
  MR. BRANCHFLOWER: And was there mention made of Michael Wooten in the context of this conversation?
  MS. BYRNE: Yes.
  MR. BRANCHFLOWER: What did he tell you?
  MS. BYRNE: <b>That because of the fact that we still had Wooten in our employee, that we would continue to have the problems with budgeting.
</b>
  MR. BRANCHFLOWER: That was his feeling?
  MS. BYRNE: Yes.
  MR. BRANCHFLOWER: Did he say that he had been told that, or did you get the feeling that that was just his feeling?
  MS. BYRNE: No. He was - I don't know who, whether someone told him directly, but it has always been my feeling that our administration has always been pressured and everything that we've done as far as goals and projects, that it weighed very heavily upon that issue.
  MR. BRANCHFLOWER: The issue being Mike Wooten being fired?
  MS. BYRNE: Yes.
  MR. BRANCHFLOWER: And the pressure that you're referring to, would that be coming from the Governor or Governor's office?
  MS. BYRNE: It was her Administration - not only from the Governor, but
  other members.
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Yep. So desperate were the Crazy Palins to prosecute their vendetta against their former brother-in-law that when they couldn't get Monegan to break state law and union rules on their behalf, that they decided to "punish" him by denying his budgeting requests for public safety projects.
Women are raped in Alaska at a rate twice the national average, but Sarah Palin cuts the public saftety budget in a desperate bid to score some kind of points in her insane personal crusade against her own family.
Remember this next time she spews her crap about how Democrats would "cut funding for our troops, because the truth is that she cut funding for her Troopers when Alaskans needed them most.
And she did it all for some vague hope of personal satisfaction.
What a psycho.
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Sarah 'country first' Palin , scratch that, 'family first' Palin sounds more "risky" than Obama.
More on Joe the Plumber:
Daily Kos reports our Joe the Plumber who's so concerned about taxes is actually a tax cheat. Daily Kos also notes that he's already owing a few business entites (this one's a bit questionable).
Eisenstadt reporting that Joe Plumber's realted to Charles Keating.
Memo to McCain: Fire your staff.
Shrum was correct in stating - end McCain's misery, hold elections today.
That is the difference between far left brain dead media, they are blaming the man and unable to understand what he was saying. He is scared of his future, his hardwork. here is what he means , I don't know how Kos will treat poor red Hen
<b><i>The little Red Hen plants the wheat, grinds the wheat, makes the flour, gathers the apples, cooks the apples, bakes the pie ... asking all along if anyone else wanted to help. They all said "no thanks."
Then when the pie is baked, Barack Obama comes along and says: "Thank you Little Red Hen for all your hard work making this pie. I will now take half of it and give it to those who didn't want to help you make it."</i></b>
They are treating Joe like Hillary or Palin, how dare someone came out against Messiah Obama?
Regarding Hillary, <!--emo&  --><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo& --><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> She had given all her goodies to McCain. Two days back her group raised around one million for McCain/Palin led by Hillary's Presidental Campaign lawyer. What she is saying on TV or her actions behind are very different. Yes, I would have liked her not as politician but as a regular citizen and come out in open if she really thinks Obama is not good for country but too much too ask from her.
http://journaloffeministinsight.blogspot.c...-report-is.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Elton has donated at least $2,000 to Obamaâs campaign.
http://townhall.com/Common/PrintPage...e0e0522ff6&t=c
Senator Kim Elton, chairman of the council conducting the inquiry, and Hollis French, Project Director of the inquiry, are both ardent supporters of Barack Obama. Elton appointed Steve Branchflower, a former colleague of Walt Monegan, as lead investigator of the inquiry.
â¦
lead investigator Branchflower was exposed to have secretly conspired with French regarding the recipients of the subpoenas.
http://www.barackbook.com/Profiles/HollisFrench.htm
French will supervise Branchflower.
http://www.barackbook.com/Profiles/S...anchflower.htm
French said he said some things he probably shouldn't have, but noted that he is not in charge of gathering the facts and writing the report. Prosecutor Stephen Branchflower was hired to conduct the investigationâ¦
http://airamerica.com/blog/2008/sep/...-investigation
French will supervise Branchflower. French, also a former prosecutor and colleague of Branchflower,
http://www.adn.com/monegan/story/482003.html <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I thought only Kos had problem but I just found out, who is there leader.
<b>Obama actually mocked Joe the Plumber</b>!
Mudy, McCain and Obama are addressing Alfred E Smith Memorial in NYC tonight. Both are making jokes about each other and themselves - all in good clean humor. Someone for sure will have a youtube on this in a day or two. Very refereshing compared to vicious attacks and stupidity of debates.
Watching right now.
It on you-tube
<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Oct 16 2008, 10:11 PM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Oct 16 2008, 10:11 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Watching right now.
It on you-tube
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BO at Alfred E Smith Dinner part-1
BO at Alfred E Smith Dinner part-2
He believes Barack Obama is the "wrong choice" for the Democratic ticket and to head the country.
"They found him under a tree and raised him in the corrupt Chicago political machine," he says with ill-concealed rancor. "I also believe he is a closet Muslim." He has seen bumper stickers, he whispers conspiratorially, that say "Obama '08 and Osama '09." There are also T-shirts that show Obama, with a sickle running through the O to show that he's a communist, he insists.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/World/M...how/3615824.cms
10-20-2008, 10:32 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-20-2008, 10:46 PM by dhu.)
Has Shelby Steele, the african american analyst, changed his reading of Obama? Steele had stated that obama is a subaltern racial bargainer rather a subaltern confrontationist. Are our own psecs actually variants of bargainers?
<!--emo&:tv--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tv_feliz.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tv_feliz.gif' /><!--endemo--> Since the last AP-GfK survey in late September, McCain also has:
* Posted big gains among likely voters earning under $50,000 a year; he now trails Obama by just 4 percentage points compared with 26 earlier.
* Surged among rural voters; he has an 18-point advantage, up from 4.
* Doubled his advantage among whites who haven't finished college and now leads by 20 points. McCain and Obama are running about even among white college graduates, no change from earlier.
* Made modest gains among whites of both genders, now leading by 22 points among white men and by 7 among white women.
* Improved slightly among whites who are married, now with a 24-point lead.
* Narrowed a gap among unmarried whites, though he still trails by 8 points.
The poll, which found Obama at 44 percent and McCain at 43 percent, supports what some Republicans and Democrats privately have said in recent days: that the race narrowed after the third debate as Republican-leaning voters drifted home to their party.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27324419/?GT1=43001
<b>Obama's $175,000 Donor?" </b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->There have been a smattering of incidents reported in which people have seen credit card charges surface suggesting they donated to Barack Obama when they did not.
Now comes the story of Mary T. Biskup, of Manchester, Missouri. Biskup got a call recently from the Obama campaign, which was trying to figure out why she donated $174,800 to the campaign -- well over the contribution limit of $2,300.
The answer she gave them was simple. "That's an error."
Biskup, a retired insurance manager who occasionally submits recipes to the local paper, says someone used a credit card to donate the money in her name. No charges ever showed up on her credit card statement.
"We're not out a penny," Biskup said. "I gather that someone has hacked into something using other people's credit cards and putting my name on it."
Obama's campaign spotted the irregular donations,<b> more than 70 of which all arrived on the same day, </b>and aides to the senator said they refunded the money. The campaign began investigating immediately. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Everyone makesure you check your creidt and Debit statement for this month.
Last month's Obama $150 million came from big credit scam. This is not small and restricted to 4 states but its all over US and effected Charities, religious organization, retire and individuals.
link
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I went to the Obama campaign website and entered the following:
Name: John Galt
Address: 1957 Ayn Rand Lane
City: Galts Gulch
State: CO
Zip: 99999
Then I checked the box next to $15 and entered my actual credit card number and expiration date (it didnât ask for the 3-didgit code on the back of the card) and it took me to the next page and⦠âYour donation has been processed. Thank you for your generous gift.â
This simply should not, and could not, happen in any business or any campaign that is honestly trying to vet itâs donors. Also, I donât see how this could possibly happen without the collusion of the credit card companies. They simply wouldnât allow any business to process, potentially, hundreds of millions in credit card transactions where the name on the card doesnât match the purchasers name.
<b>In short, with the system set up as it is by the Obama camp, an individual could donate unlimited amounts of money by simply making up fake names and addresses. And Obama is doing his best to facilitate this fraud. This is truly scandalous.</b> <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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