US Elections 2008 - 4

10-08-2008, 10:53 PM

QUOTEObama said won't attack any country unless there's an eminent threat to US security - was he wrong in saying that. Don't we wish MMS grew some spine and does the same?

And he emphasized that he will act if Pakis don't act. Nothing could be more clear. Whether he delivers - that's another question. But he brings right attitude and temperament to table. But even if he sends few Tomhawks to OBL tent (this time without alerting a*holes in Pindi) like Bill did, it won't be bad
How much we hate Pakistan? We love to see complete distruction of Pakistan, we know Indians can't do it, we will love to see other do it for us.
BUT here is the problem

Bush Doctrine or Obama Doctrine forgets that one has to respect Sovereignty of other Nation.
Obama attitude is of street hustler of Chicago not a leader.
Consequence of such action will be major loss of live. If Obama attack, imagine some fundoos decides to fly plane and dump one Nuke in India to blackmail Obama or fly plane to any other country if not US and dump Nuke. This can happen. Don't forget China will provide full support, so that Pakistan gets maximum out of Obama's stupidity.
In India Forum we know Osama is one of those fundoos. Chasing him will not change equation, it is just stupidity to chase one man, target should be neutering of fundoo movement. That is big deal.
One should not under-estimate Pakistan fundoos. Atrition is only solution of Pakistan problem. Currently US and Pakistan are doing in Fedral Area.

Obama is breaking bread with Islamist, don't expect he will try to touch hornets nest.

10-08-2008, 11:13 PM

QUOTEChasing him will not change equation, it is just stupidity to chase one man, target should be neutering of fundoo movement. That is big deal.
At high level yes. But it's not India's business to reform ideology going back 1400 years or spanning 3 to 4 different continents. Clearly we are not into religious reform business even in our our country.

If we have a certain standards in how we want our own govt to act in terms of dealing with say Paki-terror-residents like Maulana Masood Azhar or Syed Salahuddin or Dawood why should it be any different for US in what BO saying?

10-09-2008, 12:22 AM

QUOTEAt high level yes. But it's not India's business to reform ideology going back 1400 years or spanning 3 to 4 different continents. Clearly we are not into religious reform business even in our our country.
We have to, no other option, Now these fundoos are not coming from Pakistan or Bangladesh, they are from best school of India. So we need to do something otherwise get ready for Ghori or Qutab or Aurangjeb days.

QUOTEIf we have a certain standards in how we want our own govt to act in terms of dealing with say Paki-terror-residents like Maulana Masood Azhar or Syed Salahuddin or Dawood why should it be any different for US in what BO saying?
Why we were not able to do because Pakistan is Nuclear Islamic state and Indian leadership breaks bread with Pakistan leadership and dependent on Islamic Oil.

Over one billion people, not a single leader.

**acharya** · 10-09-2008, 06:16 AM

October 8th, 2008
Monthly church attenders swing Obamaâs way
QUOTEThe survey also found that 49 percent of Americans think Obama is friendly to religion and 45 percent think McCain is friendly to religion â numbers that both candidates may find discouraging since neither chalks up a majority on that score.

The survey includes a national sample of 2,000 adults including an oversample of 974 respondents aged 18 to 34. It was conducted from Aug 28 to Sept 19, so it was obviously before the second televized presidential debate. The margin of error for the broader survey is +/- 2.5 percent and for the younger group it is +/- three percent 
QUOTE Iâm not crazy about McCain either â but at least I can tell that heâs committed to doing what he thinks is good for the United States NOT just commited to doing whatever is good for himself, like Obama seems. By the way, whenever I get asked whom Iâm voting for, I tell people Obama, just to avoid an argument. Obama telling his followers, that act like heâs the second coming or something, telling them to âget into peopleâs facesâ is crazy and dangerous. I feel intimidated to even tell my own friends that I donât like Obama.

http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/1...ing-obamas-way/

10-09-2008, 10:13 PM

Over 70 percent of CEOs fear an Obama presidency will be a disaster

10-09-2008, 11:09 PM

QUOTE(Mudy @ Oct 9 2008, 12:43 PM)Over 70 percent of CEOs fear an Obama presidency will be a disaster 
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Since he's going to tax these CEOs making greater than $250K, reaction is understandable.

Mudy check this site: http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
It's run by statisticians without political affiliation (at least that's their claim).

10-10-2008, 12:30 AM

At this stage too early to say.

Couple of news events on pipeline
1) Friday Alsaka verdict
2) Corsi detention and deportation from Kenya, Corsi is able to get emails from Obama Senate communication with Odinga.
3) Patrick is expanding RICO
4) ACRON

ELECTORAL VOTE October 9, 2008 KERRY 280 BUSH 248
Does anyone remember the Kerry's landslide ?

Thousands Of Dead People On Connecticut's Voter Rolls

**acharya** · 10-12-2008, 12:01 AM

Republican anger bubbles up at McCain rally
Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:11pm EDT

Capt M Kumar · 10-13-2008, 06:05 AM

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--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /> "Louisiana is different from other states politically," Schneider said. "Democrats are for Republicans, Republicans are for Democrats. They just vote for who they think will be best for that office."

Still, Obama â who has visited Louisiana five times since declaring his run for presidency last year â will need to make serious inroads to sway Louisiana's mostly white, largely conservative electorate. More than race, the main issue Obama will need to overcome in this section of the South is the perception of being too liberal, Stonecipher said.

"Obama's biggest problem here is that he's arguably the most liberal member of the U.S. Senate," he said. "That's the issue in Louisiana â not race."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/elec...louisiana_N.htm

Shambhu · 10-14-2008, 10:51 PM

Something interesting...

Hindus Are Praying To Their Gods For An Obama Win - Accuses American
Christian Pastor 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g0d3_KE5js
American Pastor Arnold Conrad's speech in Iowa.

The Times' Maeve Reston was at the event, and she passed along the key
passage from Conrad's words:

I would also pray Lord that your reputation is involved in all that
happens between now and November, because there are millions of people
around this world praying to their God -- whether it's Hindu, Buddha,
Allah -- that his [McCain's] opponent wins for a variety of reasons.

And Lord I pray that you would guard your own reputation, because they're
going to think that their god is bigger than you, if that happens. So I pray
that you would step forward and honor your own name in all that happens
between now and Election Day.

Oh Lord, we just commit this time to you, move among us, make your
presence very well felt as we are gathered here today in Jesus's name I
pray.

Some in the crowd greeted the prayer with applause.

From LA Times
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington...mccain-ral.html

10-15-2008, 12:19 AM

School textbook promotes Obama
Angry mother of 8th-grader exposes publication lauding 'change' themeQUOTETextbook praising Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama
The mother of an 8th-grader in Wisconsin is blasting school officials over their use of a textbook lauding Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's "change" theme and highlighting his 2004 Democratic National Convention as an example of good literature.
The mother, whose name was withheld because of concern over retaliation, said on the RealDebateWisconsin blog her son is taking an advanced English class in the Racine, Wis., Unified School District.
"I just found out that my son's new (copyright 2008) Wisconsin â McDougal Littell Literature book has 15 pages covering Barack Obama," she writes. "I was shocked â No John McCain, no Hillary Clinton, no George Bush â Just Barack Obama."
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The mother says it "would be one thing, if it was just the tidbit about his boyhood days, but 15 pages, and they talk about his 'Life of Service.'"
"Honestly," she writes, "what has Obama really done to be included in this book? Not only that, but on page 847 there is a photo of Obama at the 2004 Democratic Convention with at least 8 Obama signs in the background!"
The school district said it has launched an investigation.Â 
"I will tell you we are working on some information we just got. Until today we didn't know that information," said Stephanie Hayden, a district spokeswoman.
She told WND the book "probably is one of the most popular textbooks" in the country, so her district would not be the only one using it.
"The director of curriculum and instruction is reviewing it right now," she said.
Staff at McDougal Littell referred a WND call to the corporate headquarters for owner Harcourt Mifflin Co., and officials there did not respond to a request for a comment.
The mother says she understands "many teachers are liberals, but does the school have the right to shove Obama down our kid's throats?"
"All the kids grouped together and read the story," she writes. "After that, they discussed it. ... I guess it appears that Obama is planning ahead. If he doesn't get his coveted presidency, Obama is going to make sure, that the younger generations know all about him, and his 'life of service.'"
The publishing company not only promotes Obama's "literature," but it also notes his 2008 campaign for the presidency and makes available on its website a CD featuring his speech in 2004. The CD also has speeches from Arnold Schwarzenegger, Bill Clinton and Laura Bush to teach children about public speaking, "both when it's effective and when it fails."
"I'm really angry about this â In fact, I would love to rip the pages right out of this book," the mother says.
The mother says she did some research on McDougal Littell and found chairman and CEO Alfred L. McDougal of Chicago has made contributions to Obama's campaign
The publishing company declined to respond to WND's effort to obtain a comment about the donations.
The mother asks: "Is it ethical for an Obama supporter to publish an educational book which has a 15-page Barack Obama story in it? If the taxpayers are paying for these books, why is it okay for McDougal Littell to promote Obama? This really bothers me."
The moderator on the RealDebate blog added, "This is not education folks, this is indoctrination."
A contributor to the web forum Free Republic said, "One would think that focusing on the ideology of a politician currently running for president would be a bit over-the-top even for our extreme left leaning system of education in this country. But there it is anyway."
The posting cited the book's overt promotion of Obama.
"On one page, for instance, the kids are urged to discuss what makes them 'proud' before they read 'Dreams from my Father.' The message here is that an Obama candidacy is supposed to make everyone "proud" apparently. If you stand against Obama, I guess you stand against pride, huh?"
"Can you imagine the schools having John McCain's campaign biography in them?" the forum contributor said.
WND columnist Jack Cashill, meanwhile, has documented evidence that Obama didn't even write the book published under his name, "Dreams from My Father." Cashill suggests the author actually was Weather Underground radical Bill Ayers, whose relationship with Obama has become a contentious issue on the campaign trail.
WND recently reported a five-year study of 28 prominent history, geography and social studies textbooks found American public school students are being loaded up with indoctrination about Christianity, Judaism, Islam and the Middle East, to the cost of Christianity and Judaism and the benefit of Islam.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=77957</div>

They are learning from Congress Socialist of India, teach kids Sonia and Lalu in school.

10-15-2008, 03:50 AM

If anyone had contribute to Obama Campaign, check you credit card bill. People who had contribute $15 or $100 are billed $2300.

Lot of people had become victim. Chase is reporting lot of case.

Looks like last month high number of Contribution to Obama campaign was due to this scam.

**shamu** · 10-15-2008, 04:19 AM

Is there any news report about this?

~~Pandyan~~ · 10-15-2008, 05:00 AM

QUOTE(Shambhu @ Oct 14 2008, 01:21 PM)Hindus Are Praying To Their Gods For An Obama Win - Accuses American
Christian Pastor

Bunch of crazy EJs.

10-15-2008, 05:31 AM

QUOTE(shamu @ Oct 15 2008, 04:19 AM)Is there any news report about this?
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I don't have link from Kansas news but here in this blog it is mentioned

Someone was discussing this news item in Library, two people said this happened to them also. I came home and checked this news.

10-15-2008, 08:39 AM

QUOTEThese 45 Communist Goals to Takeover America were read into the Congressional Record as far back as 1963.

Here's a link to all 45, but here are a few of them - including infiltrating schools:

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/...8/133540.shtml

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the U.S.

In his book "Reaganâs War," Peter Schweizer demonstrates the astonishing degree to which communists and communist sympathizers have penetrated the Democratic Party. In his book, Schweizer writes about the presidential election of 1979.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

This strategy goes back to the founding of the American Civil Liberties Union by Fabian Socialists Roger Baldwin and John Dewey and Communists William Z. Foster and Elizabeth Gurley Flynn among others.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations that are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

Turn America into a socialist police state.

10-15-2008, 08:51 PM

QUOTE(Mudy @ Oct 14 2008, 08:01 PM)<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(shamu @ Oct 15 2008, 04:19 AM)Is there any news report about this?
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I don't have link from Kansas news but here in this blog it is mentioned

Someone was discussing this news item in Library, two people said this happened to them also. I came home and checked this news.
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Mudy, couple months ago AT&T billed someone over $10000 on iPhone usage. Dosen't mean that AT&T is running a scam job. Last thing any business would do is try to bite the hand that feeds it. I doubt Obama campaign is that stupid.
When credit cards charges are fraudulent, card holder get credit back on every penny.

10-15-2008, 09:10 PM

G PARTHASARATHY: Let's Look Ahead

10-15-2008, 10:23 PM

QUOTEMudy, couple months ago AT&T billed someone over $10000 on iPhone usage. Dosen't mean that AT&T is running a scam job. Last thing any business would do is try to bite the hand that feeds it. I doubt Obama campaign is that stupid.
When credit cards charges are fraudulent, card holder get credit back on every penny. 
My objective was to watchout for scam. No way pointing finger on kind hearted Messiah Obama's honesty.
Well, this was not the isolated case. Media is not coverning anything negative about Obama. How many you know FBI raided ACORN in Las Vegas or Texas because they hired felons on parole on Credit and identity fraud crimes. Credit scam by his supporter or phone fraud fundraiser to help him.
That is why Chase and other credit card company (they are not disclosing name) are refunding money.

10-15-2008, 10:25 PM

How media is in tank with Obama, Since today left media is actually using these talking point.QUOTE The Obama campaign issued a set of debate 'talking points' to media on Wednesday morning, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal.

Press Secretary Sean Smith issued the directive in an email from Pennsylvania, 12 hours before the debate.

The directive oddly mirrors much of the main press analysis and theme of the current campaign:

-------- Original Message --------
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:37:27 -0500
From: Sean Smith [s***mith@barackobama.com]
To: Sean Smith [s***mith@barackobama.com]

* This is John McCain's last chance to turn this race around and somehow convince the American people that his erratic response to this economic crisis doesn't disqualify him from being President.

* Just this weekend the weekend, John McCain vowed to "whip Obama's you-know-what" at the debate, and he's indicated that he'll be bringing up Bill Ayers to try to distract voters.

* So we know that Senator McCain will come ready to attack Barack Obama and bring his dishonorable campaign tactics to the debate stage.

Obama continues to lead on the economic crisis with a rescue plan for Main Street.

* Over the course of the campaign, Barack Obama has laid out a set of policies that will grow our middle class and strengthen our economy.

* But he knows we face an immediate economic emergency that requires urgent action - on top of the plans he's already laid out - to help workers and families and communities struggling right now.

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