US Elections 2008 - 4

~~Pandyan~~ · 10-06-2008, 05:37 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_op..._vs_John_McCain

I'm not inclined to believe opinion polls from CBS, ABC, and most astonishingly, Daily Kos.

dhu · 10-06-2008, 06:18 AM

No need to take the internal affairs of these mlecchas too seriously. At most, these clowns are haggling over the dividends of their stolen continent. It just seems that the tamasha levels have increased exponentially in massaland and this doubtlessly is indicative of some major paradigm shift into a celluloid chasm.

QUOTESarah Palin's Debate Performance Tanked Among Women

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Remember The Rules: Time-Tested Secrets for Capturing the Heart of Mr. Right, Ellen Fein's and Sherry Schneider's explosively controversial 1995 book that upended thirty years of feminist teaching about dating? Forget all that equality and intelligence stuff, The Rules advised. Who wants to be Hillary Clinton? Men are simple, attracted to sexual symbols and bright, shiny objects. If you want them, they argued, you must sport long hair and wear sexy, attention-getting clothes. The suit Palin wore for the debate was some amazingly iridescent material, and she sported an eye-popping sparkly rhinestone flag pin. The governor as the It Girl of the '90s singles scene.
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Palin follows all The Rules most indigestible to feminists. Let Him Take the Lead ("Bush Doctrine? In what respect, Charlie?") and Never Tell Him What to Do or Try to Change Him (John McCain: "Governor Palin and I agree that you don't announce that you're going to attack another country." Palin: "Well, as Senator McCain is suggesting here, also, never would our administration get out there and show our cards to terrorists, in this case, to enemies and let them know what the game plan was, not when that could ultimately adversely affect a plan to keep America secure.")

10-07-2008, 04:43 AM

McCain campaign gets Indian-American wingQUOTERepublican Presidential nominee Senator John McCain's [Images] Deputy Campaign Manager Christian Ferry has said a key part of the newly minted Indo-Americans for McCain '08, founded by the Silicon Valley father-son duo of entrepreneurs Deven and Vishal Verma, would be to build a bipartisan community of Indian Americans comprising Democrats, Republicans and Independents to support McCain for President.

'This is an important target group in some of our key target states including Florida [Images], Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Virginia, and it's building not only a group of Republican Indian Americans to support Senator McCain, but also Independents and Democrats because this is what's going to make this coalition truly successful,' Ferry said.

10-07-2008, 05:02 AM

QUOTEThis is an important target group in some of our key target states including Florida [Images], Michigan,
Michigan!! Sarah Palin wasn't the only one not to receive notice about Michigan.

QUOTEHe is abusing them for years, I stopped watching him 3-4 years back.
He was fair to HC when others were going negative. Besides if he was dissing out on harpies (Coulter's words) like Michelle Malikin, Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter.. bless his soul.

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**acharya** · 10-07-2008, 08:10 PM

October 7, 2008
Shallow, fake... Sarah Palin is beyond parody
The kid-glove treatment of the Republican vice-presidential candidate is an insult to women
Martin Samuel

There is a time when it is necessary to take the gloves off and that time is right now, said Sarah Palin in Colorado. Interesting that she did not want the gloves off before her vice-presidential debate with Joe Biden. Oh, gloves on then. Headgear, too. Maybe some of those big shoulder pads that quarter-backs wear; and throw cushions for a softer landing. In fact, Palin and her minders could not have demanded a safer arena for debate when the opposition was within striking distance. Biden appeared with his hands tied, his intellect muted, his manner subdued, lest he should seem smarter, better informed or more competent than his opponent, a move which was inexplicably deemed undesirable. This shows how far we have come. Intelligence is now viewed as a threat. Isn't that how Pol Pot operated?

Meanwhile, the Republican lobby put pressure on the debate moderator not to go heavy on foreign policy, perhaps fearing that Palin would repeat her view that experience in this area was linked to proximity to a coastline, and expectations were lowered so that just avoiding intellectual humiliation would be seen as victory. And it worked. She got the name of the Nato commander in Afghanistan wrong and Biden smiled politely. She pronounced nuclear the same way that Homer Simpson does and he had to find it charming. She failed to answer direct questions, while advancing a carefully moulded image as a straight-talking maverick, and it went unquestioned. Now, from a safe distance, Palin wants the gloves off. Of course she does, with no chance of instant scrutiny.

Palin is the queen of misinformation, delivered with faux folksiness as authentic as a three- dollar bill. She is not the pitbull in lipstick of popular myth; she is Deputy Dawg with a forked tongue, engaged in a war against intelligence. Those falling for this act are her collateral damage. Barack Obama did not pal around with terrorists. He did not vote to increase the tax burden on families making $42,000 a year, or vote 94 times to increase taxes. Palin's statements on these subjects are not a reality bulletin from Main Street, Wasilla. Palin's statements are lies. Madeline Albright did not speak of a place in Hell reserved for women who do not support other women. Palin misquoted her. Albright said help, not support. And there is no such place as Hell.

Even so, for those American women who worry that they risk damnation if they don't vote the Republican ticket, it should be explained that eternity with a pitchfork impaled in your rear is still preferable to a vote for a politician who aided her political career by using her Down's syndrome child to cover her daughter's pregnancy bump. And it is at this point that we need to talk to the Democrat women considering joining Palin's ranks and ask: what the hell is wrong with you? People were imprisoned and trampled to death by horses for this? They marched, they demonstrated, and for what? A vote cast on the basis of a Y chromosome?
You go, girl. Go? Go where? Go to college? Go back to that Republican cramming camp to be told what newspapers to say you read and be fed another set of fake statistics where real knowledge and opinions should be? It is easy to parody Sarah Palin, wrote one commentator last week. No, it isn't. It is near impossible because so much of what she says reads like a satirical script anyway. Tina Fey, the finest Palin imitator, was reduced on Saturday Night Live to using Palin's exact words in response to a question about the bailout package last week, because they were beyond imitation.

âThat's what I say that I like every American I am speaking with we're ill about this position that we have been put in where it is the taxpayers looking to bailout, but ultimately what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy, um, helping the, oh, it's got to be all about job creation, too, shoring up our economy and, and putting it back on the right track; so healthcare reform, and reducing taxes and reigning in spending has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americans and trade we have we got to see trade as opportunity not as, a, a, competitive, um, scary thing, but one in five jobs being created in the trade sector today we, we've got to look at that as more opportunity, all of those things under the umbrella of job creation, this bailout is a part of that.â

Genuine answer from potentially the second most powerful politician in the free world. How can anybody parody that?

Tina Fey is at least attempting to do the job of nailing Palin's shallowness, her falseness, her studied populism and the way the standards and expectations of public debate have been lowered to accommodate her. Yet if there truly were this liberal media elite to which Palin makes constant reference, it would have bounced her out of the building by now. Anyone who thinks Palin's performances since her catastrophic CBS interview have been adequate must also believe the American public are stupid. By any normal yardstick of political discourse - substance, accuracy, coherence - she is a bust.

Against Biden she was judged a success, not on what she said, but on the connection she is believed to have made with a fictional Joe Six-Pack: so those giving the thumbs-up must also believe Americans to be simple suckers for a wink, a dropped âgâ on a verb, and the use of the odd folksy phrase. You betcha. Doggone it. She's a bump on a log. Darn right.

10-07-2008, 09:29 PM

Must listen - very enlightening

YouTube - Howard Stern - 1/10/2008 - Sal Interviews Obama Supporters in Harlem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5p3OB6roAg

10-07-2008, 11:52 PM

QUOTE(Mudy @ Oct 2 2008, 08:11 PM)Obama Youth - Junior Fraternity Regiment
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This versus Levi Johnson. Choice is clear.

~~Pandyan~~ · 10-08-2008, 01:13 AM

QUOTE(Mudy @ Oct 7 2008, 11:59 AM)Must listen - very enlightening

YouTube - Howard Stern - 1/10/2008 - Sal Interviews Obama Supporters in Harlem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5p3OB6roAg
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This was pretty funny.

Whats funnier is that many of Obama's supporters, particularly blacks, think he is already President....simply because he won the Democratic primaries.

10-08-2008, 01:32 AM

What's not funny is the fact for one racists idiot in Harlem, there's five KKK leaning nitwits in southern states. Lately McCain-Palin rallies are being to sound like Nazi fest where epithets like 'treason' and 'terrorists' are hurled on BO while McCain and Palin sheepishly grin.

Expect such hate to fill in the void left by bankruptcy in mavericness.
Here's an example from yesterday - from UK (as if Brits should care):
Man shot three times in street by racist gunman - for wearing Barack Obama T-shirt

~~Pandyan~~ · 10-08-2008, 02:27 AM

QUOTEHe added: 'Obama inspires me, his educational track record alone is quite unbelievable - that is why I was wearing the T-shirt. 
If it's so amazing, why hasn't Obama campaign released his undergraduate grades? Plus, there is nothing "unbelievable" about his educational track record, compared to a Bill Clinton - Rhodes Scholar - Oxford - Yale Law School.

Shambhu · 10-08-2008, 03:59 AM

My colleague went campaigning for Obama in rural Virginia on Sunday. In one household, the guy flatly told him that he would never vote for a black guy..

10-08-2008, 11:44 AM

Stock Market is not happy with Obama poll number, same happened during Primary. With every Hillary win market went up. Now every Obama poll number, market is going down.

10-08-2008, 12:07 PM

QUOTE(Shambhu @ Oct 8 2008, 03:59 AM)My colleague went campaigning for Obama in rural Virginia on Sunday. In one household, the guy flatly told him that he would never vote for a black guy..
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Its both way. Blacks were calling Hillary dirty woman, or white trailer trash. In rural area, people are open, urban is total different story, they know how to cover. That is why in polling, undecided are above 20%. People are not saying.

10-08-2008, 08:51 PM

QUOTEStock Market is not happy with Obama poll number, same happened during Primary. 
Financial markets don't work that way. People don't sell stocks and their retirement $ because of a candidate. If what you are saying is true, we should short short Dow with every penny we have an make a killing since BO poll numbers are through the roof.

Historically Oct are volatile months in market because lot of mutual funds close their books on Oct 31st.

On round 2 debate, BO had a better line on dealing with Pakistan. McCain's still stuck in his 80s Afghan-Soviet war era.

10-08-2008, 09:47 PM

QUOTEFinancial markets don't work that way
It does. Moody came out with rating in Jan 2008. Capital tax and Socialism are scaring international investor.

Obama is saying Health Services is Right, next Car, House, pets will be RIGHT.

QUOTEOn round 2 debate, BO had a better line on dealing with Pakistan. McCain's still stuck in his 80s Afghan-Soviet war era.
To catch Osama, Obama will INVADE nuclear state. Worse then Bush.
Obama is trying to distance himself with Muslim tag and his connection with Pakistan and visit during Afghan war.

India or any free country should worry because Obama who had no value for free country and its boundaries.

Current situation of Indian Muslims, if one Indian Muslim do nasty thing in US and Manmohan Singh can't deliver him because Manmohan want to sleep well, expect Obama attack on India.

10-08-2008, 10:00 PM

Enjoy it.
Glenn Beck presents the Obama National Anthem

10-08-2008, 10:06 PM

Obama said won't attack any country unless there's an eminent threat to US security - was he wrong in saying that. Don't we wish MMS grew some spine and does the same?

And he emphasized that he will act if Pakis don't act. Nothing could be more clear. Whether he delivers - that's another question. But he brings right attitude and temperament to table. But even if he sends few Tomhawks to OBL tent (this time without alerting a*holes in Pindi) like Bill did, it won't be bad.

QUOTECapital tax and Socialism are scaring international investor
International investors have bigger worries like the credit squeeze and the lack of liquidity.

10-08-2008, 10:11 PM

QUOTE(Mudy @ Oct 8 2008, 12:30 PM)Enjoy it.
Glenn Beck presents the Obama National Anthem
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Don't take the recovering alcholoic whacko who said "if you're an ugly woman, you're probably a progressive as well" too seriously. The cartoon is good for cartoons onlee.
His glorious career is illustrated here: here

~~Pandyan~~ · 10-08-2008, 10:27 PM

QUOTE(Mudy @ Oct 8 2008, 12:17 PM)Current situation of Indian Muslims, if one Indian Muslim do nasty thing in US and Manmohan Singh can't deliver him because Manmohan want to sleep well, expect Obama attack on India.

That's pretty far fetched. He stated that US will commit to crossing border and eliminating threats if Pakis don't do it themselves. Which is reasonable, considering that pakis should have been the real subjects of bombing after 9-11.

QUOTE"If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will," Obama said.
US is already doing that now under Bush, and I don't see any reason why McCain wouldn't continue.

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