03-18-2012, 07:34 AM
[quote name='Muppalla' date='18 March 2012 - 06:11 AM' timestamp='1332030782' post='114612']
There is no need to introspect. your example of marrying off to Muslim is extreme as vast numbers are not ready to marry off to a different sub caste.
There is a vast population of India such as Gujarat and Bihar where there is no fear due to Muslims. Maharashtra also belongs to the same class. They know how to deal with them when things go out of hand. Gujarat never ever reconciled to the fact that Muslims live among them. This is nothing to do with Modi or BJP. It is always like that irrespective of who ruled them. For example in Maha neither congress nor NCP has given even a single ticket to Muslims (Antulay is only one who lost anyway).
The Muslim phobia is really in few pockets and trying to expand using the problems in those pockets across India will not work. BJP needs to work only on how to get to power by India's natural methods. Build a base not on ideology but on things that work. When you get to power implement the ideology. They should stop fear mongering. They should create caste leaders inside BJP where caste is important.
There is no difference between AP and Karnataka. Why there is BJP in Karnataka and why not in AP? Very simply contrast. They did the right things of Lingayat Vs vokaligga competition and took on one side to be relevant. Even if they lose they are second there. In AP, their whole start is Hyderabad and it is again fear mongering or Takleef based votes in pockets of Hyderabad. Their entire leadership is Hyderabad (other than few like Venkiah Naidu). Had they played the game of the competetion of Kammas Vs Reddys they would have got the room to become relevant.
However, the arm chair analysts over internet analyse stuff like Muslims, EJs etc instead of the blunt facts. The apeasement and conversion are issue and no doubt they needs to be solved in the national interest. But they should not be a day-to-day electoral issues.
What BJP needs is "some non-brahmin castes' leadership WITH NO INVOLVEMENT or DIRECTION of brahmins". That is only way to increase its base.
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I agree, the presence of brahmins is very harmful esp in South India, such as TN ,
and brahmins must be shunted off to VHP or other sangh activities
I also suggest that MBC castes who dont get the benefits of reservation, even though they are on the quota list is a very good place to start
Forget Reddy and Kamma, go 1 step below
Reddy = cong, Kamma = TDP and they are each only 5% of AP.
I am sure there are plenty of OBC - MBC castes, such as yadav, chetty, raju , who are 2nd class citizens and would like to become 1st class citizens of AP
There is no need to introspect. your example of marrying off to Muslim is extreme as vast numbers are not ready to marry off to a different sub caste.
There is a vast population of India such as Gujarat and Bihar where there is no fear due to Muslims. Maharashtra also belongs to the same class. They know how to deal with them when things go out of hand. Gujarat never ever reconciled to the fact that Muslims live among them. This is nothing to do with Modi or BJP. It is always like that irrespective of who ruled them. For example in Maha neither congress nor NCP has given even a single ticket to Muslims (Antulay is only one who lost anyway).
The Muslim phobia is really in few pockets and trying to expand using the problems in those pockets across India will not work. BJP needs to work only on how to get to power by India's natural methods. Build a base not on ideology but on things that work. When you get to power implement the ideology. They should stop fear mongering. They should create caste leaders inside BJP where caste is important.
There is no difference between AP and Karnataka. Why there is BJP in Karnataka and why not in AP? Very simply contrast. They did the right things of Lingayat Vs vokaligga competition and took on one side to be relevant. Even if they lose they are second there. In AP, their whole start is Hyderabad and it is again fear mongering or Takleef based votes in pockets of Hyderabad. Their entire leadership is Hyderabad (other than few like Venkiah Naidu). Had they played the game of the competetion of Kammas Vs Reddys they would have got the room to become relevant.
However, the arm chair analysts over internet analyse stuff like Muslims, EJs etc instead of the blunt facts. The apeasement and conversion are issue and no doubt they needs to be solved in the national interest. But they should not be a day-to-day electoral issues.
What BJP needs is "some non-brahmin castes' leadership WITH NO INVOLVEMENT or DIRECTION of brahmins". That is only way to increase its base.
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I agree, the presence of brahmins is very harmful esp in South India, such as TN ,
and brahmins must be shunted off to VHP or other sangh activities
I also suggest that MBC castes who dont get the benefits of reservation, even though they are on the quota list is a very good place to start
Forget Reddy and Kamma, go 1 step below
Reddy = cong, Kamma = TDP and they are each only 5% of AP.
I am sure there are plenty of OBC - MBC castes, such as yadav, chetty, raju , who are 2nd class citizens and would like to become 1st class citizens of AP