^ Important.
Not that people didn't know this. It's what the christoparasite (the meme of genocidal terrorism) does.
1. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/06/tim...-classical.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>tim o'reilly: the benefits of a classical education in business</b>
jun 24th, 2009
meanwhile, the kkkangress and the 'eminent historians' have destroyed all chances of a classical education in india by making sanskrit inaccessible and by demonizing all sanskrit literature as communal.
<b>i suspect, however, that the christists have a plan. once they have successfully killed off hinduism, they will absorb and project all sanskrit literature as a great part of their own heritage.</b>
<b>after all, this is precisely what they did to greece and rome.</b> the 'classical' stuff o'reilly is talking about really has nothing to do with the christist culture -- in fact it was eradicated by the christists, and it was the mohammedans who actually kept copies of the stuff during the 'golden era of christism' when the church ruled (aka the dark ages).
http://radar.oreilly.com/2009/06/benefits-...-education.html
Posted by nizhal yoddha at 6/24/2009 11:41:00 PM 1 comments <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->2. The comment on the above Rajeev2004 blog entry:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Blogger Non Carborundum said...
  Rajeev,
<b>Â Â Here you go....
  Christianity and the Origin of Sanskrit
  Dr. Alexander Harris
  www.appiusforum.com/paper.pdf</b>
  6/25/2009 8:44 AM<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Just more proof that christianism is a thieving mass-murdering religion based on a LIE.
3. See also
http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?P...801&SKIN=B
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--> <b>Exposed - Mumbai Arch Bishop's Blatant Lie</b>
12/06/2009 09:48:17Â P. Deivamuthu
I attended the Press Conference, held today (12th June 2009) at 3.30 p.m. at the Shanmukhananda Hall, King Circle, Mumbai, addressed by Kanchi Shankaracharya Swamiji and the Archbishop of Mumbai, Cardinal Oswald Gracias, subsequent to the Inter-Religious Dialogue held at the same venue.
After their Press Briefing, when question time arrived, I put a question to Cardinal Oswald Gracias:
"In the Indian Community Bible released by Mumbai Catholic Church, you have included hundreds of verses from Vedas and Upanishads. Does this not amount to stealing the intellectual property of Hindus?".
The answer given by the Cardinal was <b>"I am not aware of this"</b>
Now look at the press reports published by Mumbai newspapers datelined July 09, 2008, reproduced below:
==============================================================
Mumbai, July 09, 2008: The Catholic Church has released a special Bible for India, one that has reference to Indian scriptures, uses Indian cultural and religious themes, and will appeal to the new generation.
The liberative knowledge of the spirit (atman) is to be attained through âseeing, listening, reflecting and meditatingâ This verse from the hoary Brihadaranyaka Upanishad explains chapter 51 of the Book of Isaiah, in The New Community Bible (Catholic Edition) for India.
<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>Church leaders called the book, that was released in Mumbai last month by the Archbishop of Bombay, Oswald Cardinal Gracias, "a work of lasting importance".</span>
<b>Christened the âIndian Bibleâ,</b> the book is the culmination of a significant 18-year long experiment by the local Catholic Church to adapt the Bible for the Indian community.
Thus, apart from using Indian cultural and religious themes in the narrative, the book also uses English that is familiar to Indians, unlike the older editions of the holy book.
This Indianised bible also dipicts Virgin Mary in a sari and Joseph clad in a loincloth and turban.
=============================================================
Having himself released the Book - The New Community Bible - the Cardinal had the temerity to say that he was not aware of it, in the presence of about 30 journalists and photographers. If this is not a blatant lie, what is it?
My subsequent question was:
"Does that mean that Bible was written by human beings, and has nothing to do with Jesus Christ?"
His answer was: "It was spoken by the God and written by people".
P. Deivamuthu
Editor, Hindu Voice<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
4. Repeat: to put the above into context, here's the important comment by Swami Devananda Saraswati ("Ishwar Sharan") again
http://www.vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplay...cle.aspx?id=638
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Â The idea to incorporate Hindu scriptures into the Christian Bible originated with the Inculturation missionary Fr. Bede Griffiths aka Swami Dayananda of Sachidananda Ashram, also known as Shanti Vanam, near Trichy. He reasoned that as the Church was able to incorporated the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) with its primitive concept of a jealous creator God into the Christian Bible, it was logical for the Church to incorporate the far more sophisticated concepts of God found in the Vedas and Upanishads into an Indian Christian Bible. Theologians like Fr. Raimond Panikkar, who knew Sanskrit and had a knowledge of Hindu scripture, agreed with Griffiths though he pretended to be a critic of Griffiths' inculturation tactics. <b>Now we see that Griffiths' idea of joining the Veda with the New Testament, and therefore "fulfilling" the Vedic religion and bringing it to fruition in Jesus, has been taken up seriously by the Indian bishops. It is a form plagiarism with an ulterior motive behind it, but hasn't the SC ruled that the Vedas belong to all of humanity? The day will soon come when Hindus cannot call even their most sacred scriptures their own. </b>Â
 SDSÂ
 17 Jun 2009<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This is what christianism always does. Dividing using the Japhetic-Hamitic myth, creating Dravoodian and Oryan identities, setting up Tamizh and Samskritan as opposing/mutually-exclusive language spheres, thus alienating and then converting the populace. Thereafter, when it finds the time is right, it will start appropriating from the original native religio-culture that it had atomically-split and declare that christianism brought peace and unity, and that christianism is the repository of "culture" (having stolen Hindu Dharma=the religio-culture - in the form of Hindu literature, Samskritram and Tamizh and claimed these for its own). See example at bottom.
1. First it secularises Hindu religion (which is all Hindu things - like our clothes, languages, religious scriptures and literature, arts, crafts, rituals, architecture; EVERYTHING that they have started calling "merely Indian culture")
2. Having secularised these things, the christian terrorists will then slowly start claiming this "culture" is actually christian in origin.
- Like the claim to Samskritam in point 2 above.
- Like they are claiming the Hindu sage Tiruvalluvalar and his works as a "christian" now.
- Like they are incorporating Hindu RELIGIOUS scriptures into the "Indian babble" now. See point 3 above.
Note how the christoconverts who have been pushing for dravoodianism in TN and those brainwashed into dravoodianism will NOT complain as much were the church to reintroduce Samskritam as a christian product. Just like the christoterrorists of TN don't complain when English is used to eradicate Tamizh.
That's because dravoodianism is a cover for christianism - christians hide behind the dravoodian tag and movement. There's a few secular brainwashees to serve the overall purpose and give added momentum, but dravoodianism is fundamentally a movement guided by christianism for christian purposes alone: to promote christianism, to eradicate Hindu Dharma 1. By cutting Tamizh Hindus off from their innately Hindu identity; 2. By making Tamizh Hindus hate their own ancestral Hindu identity.
<b>ADDED:</b>
An example of the christoterrorist appropriation/theft encouraged by christomedia:
The following article from the catholic paper "Deccan chronicle" posted by Ramana last year first starts by secularising the Pottu/Bindi from being Hindu to "universally" Indian. (Also read the article in full.) It of course brings in the japhetites/oryans too, and concludes that "the women of India" should all wear the pottu; as if the mark has <i>anything</i> remotely to do with non-Hindu women:
<!--QuoteBegin-ramana+Jun 23 2008, 09:29 PM-->QUOTE(ramana @ Jun 23 2008, 09:29 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->From Deccan Chronicle, 22 June 2008, Sunday Chronicle section....
<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Bindi yatra </b>
Â
The bindi, which is symbolic of an Indian woman, holds a special place in the hearts of the people. [...]
<b>It is the symbol of being Indian.</b> The women of India should take pride in the fact that they are carrying on a tradition that was probably started by the <b>Aryans</b>. <b>By wearing a bindi, they respect not just the tradition, but also its history</b>.
(secularised 'tradition', christian narration of 'history')
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->[right][snapback]83215[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->And so, when in some recent month msn hotmail was splashed with pictures of the scary catholic bollywho amrita arora marrying some islamic, her catholic sister, malaika arora (also a mrs islamic), could be seen in a Gagra Choli (I don't know how you spell that), with what looked like a silver bindi and with Kungumam/Kumkum on the part of the forehead where it meets the hair-parting area.
Applying the sacred Kungumam in the hair-parting area is one of the several religious marks of a married <i>Hindu</i> woman.
The christos should do christian culture: veil their heads/wear the headscarf in church (=biblical commandment, else it commands that their hair be cut off), indulge in genocide (=biblical commandment). You know, all the jeebus-inspired stuff.
Not that people didn't know this. It's what the christoparasite (the meme of genocidal terrorism) does.
1. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/06/tim...-classical.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>tim o'reilly: the benefits of a classical education in business</b>
jun 24th, 2009
meanwhile, the kkkangress and the 'eminent historians' have destroyed all chances of a classical education in india by making sanskrit inaccessible and by demonizing all sanskrit literature as communal.
<b>i suspect, however, that the christists have a plan. once they have successfully killed off hinduism, they will absorb and project all sanskrit literature as a great part of their own heritage.</b>
<b>after all, this is precisely what they did to greece and rome.</b> the 'classical' stuff o'reilly is talking about really has nothing to do with the christist culture -- in fact it was eradicated by the christists, and it was the mohammedans who actually kept copies of the stuff during the 'golden era of christism' when the church ruled (aka the dark ages).
http://radar.oreilly.com/2009/06/benefits-...-education.html
Posted by nizhal yoddha at 6/24/2009 11:41:00 PM 1 comments <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->2. The comment on the above Rajeev2004 blog entry:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Blogger Non Carborundum said...
  Rajeev,
<b>Â Â Here you go....
  Christianity and the Origin of Sanskrit
  Dr. Alexander Harris
  www.appiusforum.com/paper.pdf</b>
  6/25/2009 8:44 AM<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Just more proof that christianism is a thieving mass-murdering religion based on a LIE.
3. See also
http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?P...801&SKIN=B
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--> <b>Exposed - Mumbai Arch Bishop's Blatant Lie</b>
12/06/2009 09:48:17Â P. Deivamuthu
I attended the Press Conference, held today (12th June 2009) at 3.30 p.m. at the Shanmukhananda Hall, King Circle, Mumbai, addressed by Kanchi Shankaracharya Swamiji and the Archbishop of Mumbai, Cardinal Oswald Gracias, subsequent to the Inter-Religious Dialogue held at the same venue.
After their Press Briefing, when question time arrived, I put a question to Cardinal Oswald Gracias:
"In the Indian Community Bible released by Mumbai Catholic Church, you have included hundreds of verses from Vedas and Upanishads. Does this not amount to stealing the intellectual property of Hindus?".
The answer given by the Cardinal was <b>"I am not aware of this"</b>
Now look at the press reports published by Mumbai newspapers datelined July 09, 2008, reproduced below:
==============================================================
Mumbai, July 09, 2008: The Catholic Church has released a special Bible for India, one that has reference to Indian scriptures, uses Indian cultural and religious themes, and will appeal to the new generation.
The liberative knowledge of the spirit (atman) is to be attained through âseeing, listening, reflecting and meditatingâ This verse from the hoary Brihadaranyaka Upanishad explains chapter 51 of the Book of Isaiah, in The New Community Bible (Catholic Edition) for India.
<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>Church leaders called the book, that was released in Mumbai last month by the Archbishop of Bombay, Oswald Cardinal Gracias, "a work of lasting importance".</span>
<b>Christened the âIndian Bibleâ,</b> the book is the culmination of a significant 18-year long experiment by the local Catholic Church to adapt the Bible for the Indian community.
Thus, apart from using Indian cultural and religious themes in the narrative, the book also uses English that is familiar to Indians, unlike the older editions of the holy book.
This Indianised bible also dipicts Virgin Mary in a sari and Joseph clad in a loincloth and turban.
=============================================================
Having himself released the Book - The New Community Bible - the Cardinal had the temerity to say that he was not aware of it, in the presence of about 30 journalists and photographers. If this is not a blatant lie, what is it?
My subsequent question was:
"Does that mean that Bible was written by human beings, and has nothing to do with Jesus Christ?"
His answer was: "It was spoken by the God and written by people".
P. Deivamuthu
Editor, Hindu Voice<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
4. Repeat: to put the above into context, here's the important comment by Swami Devananda Saraswati ("Ishwar Sharan") again
http://www.vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplay...cle.aspx?id=638
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Â The idea to incorporate Hindu scriptures into the Christian Bible originated with the Inculturation missionary Fr. Bede Griffiths aka Swami Dayananda of Sachidananda Ashram, also known as Shanti Vanam, near Trichy. He reasoned that as the Church was able to incorporated the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) with its primitive concept of a jealous creator God into the Christian Bible, it was logical for the Church to incorporate the far more sophisticated concepts of God found in the Vedas and Upanishads into an Indian Christian Bible. Theologians like Fr. Raimond Panikkar, who knew Sanskrit and had a knowledge of Hindu scripture, agreed with Griffiths though he pretended to be a critic of Griffiths' inculturation tactics. <b>Now we see that Griffiths' idea of joining the Veda with the New Testament, and therefore "fulfilling" the Vedic religion and bringing it to fruition in Jesus, has been taken up seriously by the Indian bishops. It is a form plagiarism with an ulterior motive behind it, but hasn't the SC ruled that the Vedas belong to all of humanity? The day will soon come when Hindus cannot call even their most sacred scriptures their own. </b>Â
 SDSÂ
 17 Jun 2009<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This is what christianism always does. Dividing using the Japhetic-Hamitic myth, creating Dravoodian and Oryan identities, setting up Tamizh and Samskritan as opposing/mutually-exclusive language spheres, thus alienating and then converting the populace. Thereafter, when it finds the time is right, it will start appropriating from the original native religio-culture that it had atomically-split and declare that christianism brought peace and unity, and that christianism is the repository of "culture" (having stolen Hindu Dharma=the religio-culture - in the form of Hindu literature, Samskritram and Tamizh and claimed these for its own). See example at bottom.
1. First it secularises Hindu religion (which is all Hindu things - like our clothes, languages, religious scriptures and literature, arts, crafts, rituals, architecture; EVERYTHING that they have started calling "merely Indian culture")
2. Having secularised these things, the christian terrorists will then slowly start claiming this "culture" is actually christian in origin.
- Like the claim to Samskritam in point 2 above.
- Like they are claiming the Hindu sage Tiruvalluvalar and his works as a "christian" now.
- Like they are incorporating Hindu RELIGIOUS scriptures into the "Indian babble" now. See point 3 above.
Note how the christoconverts who have been pushing for dravoodianism in TN and those brainwashed into dravoodianism will NOT complain as much were the church to reintroduce Samskritam as a christian product. Just like the christoterrorists of TN don't complain when English is used to eradicate Tamizh.
That's because dravoodianism is a cover for christianism - christians hide behind the dravoodian tag and movement. There's a few secular brainwashees to serve the overall purpose and give added momentum, but dravoodianism is fundamentally a movement guided by christianism for christian purposes alone: to promote christianism, to eradicate Hindu Dharma 1. By cutting Tamizh Hindus off from their innately Hindu identity; 2. By making Tamizh Hindus hate their own ancestral Hindu identity.
<b>ADDED:</b>
An example of the christoterrorist appropriation/theft encouraged by christomedia:
The following article from the catholic paper "Deccan chronicle" posted by Ramana last year first starts by secularising the Pottu/Bindi from being Hindu to "universally" Indian. (Also read the article in full.) It of course brings in the japhetites/oryans too, and concludes that "the women of India" should all wear the pottu; as if the mark has <i>anything</i> remotely to do with non-Hindu women:
<!--QuoteBegin-ramana+Jun 23 2008, 09:29 PM-->QUOTE(ramana @ Jun 23 2008, 09:29 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->From Deccan Chronicle, 22 June 2008, Sunday Chronicle section....
<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Bindi yatra </b>
Â
The bindi, which is symbolic of an Indian woman, holds a special place in the hearts of the people. [...]
<b>It is the symbol of being Indian.</b> The women of India should take pride in the fact that they are carrying on a tradition that was probably started by the <b>Aryans</b>. <b>By wearing a bindi, they respect not just the tradition, but also its history</b>.
(secularised 'tradition', christian narration of 'history')
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->[right][snapback]83215[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->And so, when in some recent month msn hotmail was splashed with pictures of the scary catholic bollywho amrita arora marrying some islamic, her catholic sister, malaika arora (also a mrs islamic), could be seen in a Gagra Choli (I don't know how you spell that), with what looked like a silver bindi and with Kungumam/Kumkum on the part of the forehead where it meets the hair-parting area.
Applying the sacred Kungumam in the hair-parting area is one of the several religious marks of a married <i>Hindu</i> woman.
The christos should do christian culture: veil their heads/wear the headscarf in church (=biblical commandment, else it commands that their hair be cut off), indulge in genocide (=biblical commandment). You know, all the jeebus-inspired stuff.