<!--QuoteBegin-agnivayu+Apr 4 2009, 05:19 AM-->QUOTE(agnivayu @ Apr 4 2009, 05:19 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->His strategy is to include Jains, Buddhists and Sikhs as part of Hindu civilization.[right][snapback]96061[/snapback][/right]
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->But they are already included automatically. It is not up to the RSS chief to include or disclude them from the definition of Hindu.
(If some today don't accept the word Hindu, then the word Dharmic civilisation cannot be offensive to them and carries the same meaning ultimately.)
<!--QuoteBegin-agnivayu+Apr 4 2009, 05:19 AM-->QUOTE(agnivayu @ Apr 4 2009, 05:19 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->It cannot include Xtianity and Islam since they don't want peace with us.[right][snapback]96061[/snapback][/right]
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->It cannot include christianism and islamism because christianism and islamism cannot be included. The followers are discluded only because they follow christoislamism. Not because 'they' don't want peace with us. It's their ideology that does not want peace with us.
And their ideology has nothing to do with Dharmic civilisation, has contributed not at all and has only tried to destroy it and the Hindus/Dharmics.
<!--QuoteBegin-agnivayu+Apr 4 2009, 05:19 AM-->QUOTE(agnivayu @ Apr 4 2009, 05:19 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Your comment equating me to a provincial governor of the Neo-Roman Empire (Catholic Church) is meaningless.[right][snapback]96061[/snapback][/right]
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->That's not what I did. What I said is that the catholic cardinal will agree with you (he will). This can only be superficially, since it is the <i>wording</i> that will make him leap at the chance.
Christianism plays with words and uses it to appropriate and destroy. It therefore likes it when heathens give them an opening with unguarded wording.
<!--QuoteBegin-agnivayu+Apr 4 2009, 05:19 AM-->QUOTE(agnivayu @ Apr 4 2009, 05:19 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Christianity's appeal is due to the Wealth and Power of the West as their philosophy is hollow and weak. Given that those things are steadily declining, the Catholic's may be getting impatient and desperate.[right][snapback]96061[/snapback][/right]
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->You don't understand the catholic church. The catholic church is certain it will regain Europe in time (it will keep trying, like Stoker's Dracula). But Asia has always been on the agenda. Conversion of the whole world is on the agenda - as it's ever been - just as is the case with islam.
E.g. Catholic church has never given up on taking Eastern Orthodox nations (like Greece, Russia, Ukraine, Romania). It is still intent on retaking the nations that have become protestant as well. In NL and DE the call is still to outbreed the protestants, which they have been doing rather successfully.
The catholic church was not born yesterday and its plans are long term. It has always known to bide its time and sets its plans in motion when it feels it is ready. It feels it is ready in Bharatam.
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->But they are already included automatically. It is not up to the RSS chief to include or disclude them from the definition of Hindu.
(If some today don't accept the word Hindu, then the word Dharmic civilisation cannot be offensive to them and carries the same meaning ultimately.)
<!--QuoteBegin-agnivayu+Apr 4 2009, 05:19 AM-->QUOTE(agnivayu @ Apr 4 2009, 05:19 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->It cannot include Xtianity and Islam since they don't want peace with us.[right][snapback]96061[/snapback][/right]
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->It cannot include christianism and islamism because christianism and islamism cannot be included. The followers are discluded only because they follow christoislamism. Not because 'they' don't want peace with us. It's their ideology that does not want peace with us.
And their ideology has nothing to do with Dharmic civilisation, has contributed not at all and has only tried to destroy it and the Hindus/Dharmics.
<!--QuoteBegin-agnivayu+Apr 4 2009, 05:19 AM-->QUOTE(agnivayu @ Apr 4 2009, 05:19 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Your comment equating me to a provincial governor of the Neo-Roman Empire (Catholic Church) is meaningless.[right][snapback]96061[/snapback][/right]
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->That's not what I did. What I said is that the catholic cardinal will agree with you (he will). This can only be superficially, since it is the <i>wording</i> that will make him leap at the chance.
Christianism plays with words and uses it to appropriate and destroy. It therefore likes it when heathens give them an opening with unguarded wording.
<!--QuoteBegin-agnivayu+Apr 4 2009, 05:19 AM-->QUOTE(agnivayu @ Apr 4 2009, 05:19 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Christianity's appeal is due to the Wealth and Power of the West as their philosophy is hollow and weak. Given that those things are steadily declining, the Catholic's may be getting impatient and desperate.[right][snapback]96061[/snapback][/right]
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->You don't understand the catholic church. The catholic church is certain it will regain Europe in time (it will keep trying, like Stoker's Dracula). But Asia has always been on the agenda. Conversion of the whole world is on the agenda - as it's ever been - just as is the case with islam.
E.g. Catholic church has never given up on taking Eastern Orthodox nations (like Greece, Russia, Ukraine, Romania). It is still intent on retaking the nations that have become protestant as well. In NL and DE the call is still to outbreed the protestants, which they have been doing rather successfully.
The catholic church was not born yesterday and its plans are long term. It has always known to bide its time and sets its plans in motion when it feels it is ready. It feels it is ready in Bharatam.
Death to traitors.