<!--QuoteBegin-Pandyan+Feb 22 2009, 04:22 AM-->QUOTE(Pandyan @ Feb 22 2009, 04:22 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->http://www.dnatribes.com/?gclid=CPvSh_HY...Ggod8mlA1Q
You can purchase a kit from there, do a cheekswab, send it back, and they will give you results in about 2 weeks.
I'm not brahmin. my caste is saiva vellalar from southern most tip of TN. So this omnipop caste result confused me a little bit. Also, I don't have any european ancestry, one of those maps don't indicate any direct ancestry, they show which places have the highest frequency of my blend of ancestry.
[right][snapback]94814[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The way I understand it, I don't think this tells you your ancestry, only what your DNA correlates closely to - that is, what other communities *also* share all/various(?) elements of your DNA. (They seem to have got a lot of data on Indian brahmin communities and not anything on Saiva Vellalars of TN.)
If one *were* to read it (wrongly IMO) as indicating ancestry then it says you have part Chinese, part Kurdish, part Norwegian, part Bosnian and oh yeah part Azores ancestry!
Azores is an island off the coast of S? America that the Portuguese colonised and took stolen Africans to. So not sure if the "Azores" element actually means you have native American (Azores) ancestry as well now <!--emo&
--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->. Note that if they'd found components in your DNA that are also there in Portuguese and/or Africans, the results would have said Portuguese and/or some African community, wouldn't they? They wouldn't have specifically said "Azores". So, reading the results as indicating ancestry says you're a bit Native American, I think <!--emo&
--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<i>Actually,</i> if the results on how closely your DNA corresponds to the different communities identified are accurate, wouldn't that rather indicate the reverse: that the genes which your Southernmost Indian Tip ancestors gave you are now found dispersed in other parts of the world. So how does this disprove the idea that your ancestors - who would have got their genes from even more ancient communities in S India - may have long ago colonised different parts of India, and then eventually (as humans populations expanded in other directions) the genes moved out to make it to Azores, China, and Kurdistan, Bosnia eventually to Norway.
Remember that "Real Eve" book that Dhu and G Sub discussed in the DNA thread? Africa -> Indian subcontinent + SE Asia -> rest of the world.
Kurdish people are related to Iranians, aren't they? And wasn't there that journal paper that found how two ancient S Indian Girijan communities' genes were to be found not only in all Indians - and hence you and me as well - but also in "W Asians" (Iranians and Afghans). At some point in time, colonies of Iranians could well have settled in Bosnia (along with communities indigenous to that area) who could have transported the genes to Norway.
(People should correct me if I've made a logic error anywhere.)
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->my caste is saiva vellalar from southern most tip of TN.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Saiva Vellalar community. Kirei.
You're a Hindu. That makes you my 'caste' - well, it makes you mine, anyway (since I don't really know what caste actually means: I don't know Portuguese AND I don't understand christian theology). Didn't you know I had planted my flag on you all. :greed:
"Possession is nine tenths of the law." All you Hindus are mine, all your ancestors are mine. The maths to explain all this is complex. And, as we know, I can't explain complex math. Just take my word for it. "Trust me," said the wolf <!--emo&
--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
"But we don't want to belong to you, we want to be free" chirruped the cuddly Hindu animals assembled.
Well, that's just too bad - too bad for you. Because, hear that? That's the sound of inevitability. There's no escaping it.
You can purchase a kit from there, do a cheekswab, send it back, and they will give you results in about 2 weeks.
I'm not brahmin. my caste is saiva vellalar from southern most tip of TN. So this omnipop caste result confused me a little bit. Also, I don't have any european ancestry, one of those maps don't indicate any direct ancestry, they show which places have the highest frequency of my blend of ancestry.
[right][snapback]94814[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The way I understand it, I don't think this tells you your ancestry, only what your DNA correlates closely to - that is, what other communities *also* share all/various(?) elements of your DNA. (They seem to have got a lot of data on Indian brahmin communities and not anything on Saiva Vellalars of TN.)
If one *were* to read it (wrongly IMO) as indicating ancestry then it says you have part Chinese, part Kurdish, part Norwegian, part Bosnian and oh yeah part Azores ancestry!
Azores is an island off the coast of S? America that the Portuguese colonised and took stolen Africans to. So not sure if the "Azores" element actually means you have native American (Azores) ancestry as well now <!--emo&
--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->. Note that if they'd found components in your DNA that are also there in Portuguese and/or Africans, the results would have said Portuguese and/or some African community, wouldn't they? They wouldn't have specifically said "Azores". So, reading the results as indicating ancestry says you're a bit Native American, I think <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--><i>Actually,</i> if the results on how closely your DNA corresponds to the different communities identified are accurate, wouldn't that rather indicate the reverse: that the genes which your Southernmost Indian Tip ancestors gave you are now found dispersed in other parts of the world. So how does this disprove the idea that your ancestors - who would have got their genes from even more ancient communities in S India - may have long ago colonised different parts of India, and then eventually (as humans populations expanded in other directions) the genes moved out to make it to Azores, China, and Kurdistan, Bosnia eventually to Norway.
Remember that "Real Eve" book that Dhu and G Sub discussed in the DNA thread? Africa -> Indian subcontinent + SE Asia -> rest of the world.
Kurdish people are related to Iranians, aren't they? And wasn't there that journal paper that found how two ancient S Indian Girijan communities' genes were to be found not only in all Indians - and hence you and me as well - but also in "W Asians" (Iranians and Afghans). At some point in time, colonies of Iranians could well have settled in Bosnia (along with communities indigenous to that area) who could have transported the genes to Norway.
(People should correct me if I've made a logic error anywhere.)
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->my caste is saiva vellalar from southern most tip of TN.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Saiva Vellalar community. Kirei.
You're a Hindu. That makes you my 'caste' - well, it makes you mine, anyway (since I don't really know what caste actually means: I don't know Portuguese AND I don't understand christian theology). Didn't you know I had planted my flag on you all. :greed:
"Possession is nine tenths of the law." All you Hindus are mine, all your ancestors are mine. The maths to explain all this is complex. And, as we know, I can't explain complex math. Just take my word for it. "Trust me," said the wolf <!--emo&
--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> "But we don't want to belong to you, we want to be free" chirruped the cuddly Hindu animals assembled.
Well, that's just too bad - too bad for you. Because, hear that? That's the sound of inevitability. There's no escaping it.