'Evil' Hindu Practices

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thayilv,
Several things in this long post.


The article Pandyan refers to above is (I think):
http://koenraadelst.voiceofdharma.com/arti...ushyamitra.html
Another article by Elst that discusses such allegations against Hindu Dharma (for things that islamism actually did to Indian Buddhism) is:
http://koenraadelst.voiceofdharma.com/arti...shakashmir.html


http://web.archive.org/web/20050207114949/...ad/subjects.htm
This page called "Jihad, the Arab Conquests and the Position of Non-Muslim Subjects" is from Ibn Warraq's site.
After the section on India, this page comes to the fate of Buddhists (both in India and outside) at the hands of islamiterrorism.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>BUDDHISM AND BUDDHISTS</b>

"Between 1000 and 1200 Buddhism disappeared from India, through the combined effects of its own weaknesses, a revived Hinduism and <b>Mohammedan persecution</b>" Edward Conze [117] "[Buddhism in India] declined after Moslem conquest of Sindh, A.D.  712, and finally suppressed by Moslem persecution A.D.1200 " Christmas Humphreys

"It is partly, no doubt, because of the <b>furor islamicus</b> that post-Gupta remains are surprisingly few in Bihar..." J.C.Harle [199]

Qutb ud din Aibak, described as "merciless and fanatical", sent his general, Muhammad Khilji, to the northern state of Bihar to continue the Muslim conquests that began in late 12th century.  Buddhism was the main religion of Bihar.  In 1193,the Muslim general, considering them all idolaters, put most of the Buddhist monks to the sword, and a great library was destroyed.  "The ashes of the Buddhist sanctuaries at Sarnath near Benares still bear witness to the rage of the image-breakers. Many noble monuments of the ancient civilisation of India were irretrievably wrecked in the course of the early Muslim invasions. Those invasions were fatal to the existence of Buddhism as an organized religion in northern India, where its strength resided chiefly in Bihar and certain adjoining territories. The monks who escaped massacre fled, and were scattered over Nepal, Tibet, and the south.."

The Muslim conquests of Central Asia also put an end to its Buddhist art. As early as the 8th century, the monasteries of Kizil were destroyed by the Muslim ruler of Kashgar, and as Benjamin Rowland says, "by the tenth century only the easternmost reaches of Turkestan had escaped the rising tide of Mohammedan conquest.  "The full tragedy of these devastations is brought out by the words of Rowland: "The ravages of the Mongols, and the mortifying hand of Islam that has caused so many cultures to wither for ever, aided by the process of nature, completely stopped the life of what must for a period of centuries have been one of the regions of the earth most gifted in art and religion."<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Romila Thapar is a communist. (Christoislami)communists are known for their compulsive lying. Their lies do not stand up to facts.
Only christoislamaniacs will believe her (and her kind's) dawaganda. After all, only christoislamicommunazis have "faith" (= belief that goes against reason; persistence in believing in things contrary to the truth in spite of becoming acquainted with the facts).

And for further proof that <i>it has always been</i> the terrorist ideology of <b>christo-islami-communism</b> that terrorised Buddhism the world over, one can point to the Great Terrorism's global anti-Buddhism in our own times:
http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HkPage.aspx...EID=5367&SKIN=B
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->1) Ask Buddhists how many Buddhist temples and sacred sites have been smashed by muslims, even in recent times (like the Bamiyan Buddhas and the Swat Buddha very recently in Terrorist state of pakistan, see "Attack on giant Pakistan Buddha" September 2007 in news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6991058.stm which the faithful muslims have since destroyed).
Not to mention how islam beat upon Buddhism historically. See historian Edward Conze, and others -  http://web.archive.org/web/20050207114949/...ad/subjects.htm

And the faithful Muslims are still beheading Buddhists and Buddhist monks, as seen these years in Thailand. Check the news on Thailand. For instance:
- "Buddhist monks targeted in deadly Thai bomb blast", October 23, 2006 http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail....&d_str=20061023
- "Islamic separatists behead Thai Buddhist", March 7, 2007 (lists several such incidents)
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/islamic-s...3166780133.html
- Asia’s Islamic extremists add beheadings to their arsenal, Boston Herald/Associated Press, June 1, 2007
"Twenty-five beheadings _ including 10 already this year _ have been reported in southern Thailand since an Islamic-inspired insurgency erupted in 2004"
'"Islamist militants in Southeast Asia are very frustrated that the region is considered the Islamic periphery," Abuza added. "... Militants of the region are actively trying to pull the region into the Islamic core. They want people to understand that their jihad is a part of the global jihad."'

2) Ask Buddhists how many Buddhist temples and sacred sites have been desecrated, vandalised and destroyed by christians.
Look what christians did to Korean Buddhism in the 1980s and late 1990s:
- http://www.buddhapia.com/eng/tedesco/pic1/list.html
- http://www.buddhapia.com/eng/tedesco/2.html "Buddhism under Siege in Korea 1982-1996"
- http://www.buddhapia.com/eng/tedesco/3.html "Buddhism under Siege in Korea - Chronology of Events January 1997-December 1998"

Next to that the Catholic dictator in 1950s Vietnam and his christian regime terrorised Buddhist monks, Buddhist nuns, Buddhist students and the Buddhist populace. Many of whom were tortured and even killed by the faithful followers of ever-genocidal christianity.
From "The Vatican's Holocaust" by Avro Manhattan who was also a BBC commentator:
"Buddhist monks, Buddhist nuns and Buddhist leaders were arrested by the thousand. Pagodas were closed or besieged. Buddhists were tortured by the police.
...
Within a brief period, seven [Buddhist monks] had burned themselves alive in public. Vietnam was put under martial law. Troops now occupied many pagodas and drove out all monks offering resistance. More Buddhist monks and Buddhist nuns were arrested and taken away in lorries, including a large number of wounded. Many were killed." (at http://freetruth.50webs.org/Overview4.htm )

3) Ask Buddhists how many Buddhist temples and sacred sites have been desecrated, and vandalised by communists.
See communist-occupied Tibet, Cambodia under Khmer Rouge, not to mention communist-occupied China.
Mark Hawthorne (for the Taoist Restoration Society) wrote:
"Mao Zedong and his communists who, following a destructive civil war, toppled China's government in 1949 and soon outlawed religion altogether. The following year, the new People's Government suppressed all faiths. Buddhist and Taoist monasteries were destroyed or requisitioned as government buildings. Monks and nuns were imprisoned in labor camps, reducing the clergy from several millions to about 50,000--the same fate to later befall Tibetan Buddhists." (also at http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/1999...999-11-12.shtml )<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Christoislamicommuni lies against Natural Traditions can last only so long. The truth is on our side. The christoislamicommunazis' compulsive lying (which includes all their pathetic propaganda to hide facts) is their own downfall.



<b>ADDED:</b>
This part is about those who have appointed themselves to speak for 'dalits'. (And, other than christoislamicommunistas and their subversionist media, who uses that word anyway?)

Elst's article "The Politics of the Aryan Invasion Debate"
http://koenraadelst.voiceofdharma.com/arti...anpolitics.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->(2) Dalit neo-Ambedkarism. Dalit, “broken” or “oppressed”, is a term applied to the former Untouchable castes, sparingly by the late-19th-century reform movement Arya Samaj, and more officially by mid-20th-century Dalit leader Dr. Bhimrao Ambedkar and by his followers ever since. Today, the term has eclipsed the Gandhian euphemism Harijan. Ambedkar himself (1917:21) rejected both the AIT and its caste-racialist implication that lower castes sprang from the native race while upper castes were the invaders’ progeny. Yet, his followers (e.g. Theertha 1941, Rajshekar 1987, Biswas 1995), along with his 19th-century precursor, the Christian-educated Jyotirao Phule, took the more conformist road of adapting the AIT and staking their political claims in the name of being “aboriginals” deprived of their land, culture and social status by the “Aryan invaders”. Among these neo-Ambedkarites, who claim Ambedkar’s mantle but have turned against him on many points (e.g. favouring conversion to Christianity or Islam, which Ambedkar energetically rejected in favour of native religions, esp. Buddhism), strange international alliances abound, e.g. with Islamic militancy, Evangelical fundamentalism and cranky American Afrocentrism. Many of V.T. Rajshekar’s brochures are transcripts of lectures at Christian institutions, and one wonders if the latter are aware of the more eccentric parts of his work, e.g. he is the only Indian to merit a mention in an authoritative study (Poliakov 1994) of contemporary anti-Semitism. His anti-Brahminism is also moulded after the anti-Semitic model, e.g. just like both capitalist plutocracy and Bolshevism have been blamed on the Jews, Rajshekar (1993) treats both religious Brahminism and Brahmin-led Indian Marxism as two hands of a single Brahmin conspiracy. Note that his anti-Brahmin plea opens with a profession of belief in the AIT: “The fair-skinned foreigners, the Aryan barbarians, who strayed into India, came into clash with India’s dark-skinned indigenous population – the Untouchables” (1993:1). This kind of company ought to worry those who rely on the principle of “guilt by association” in their argument against the AIT skeptics.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Not surprising that this fraudulent movement is actually a cloak for christoislamicommunazism.

Even the 'oh-so-secular' self-declared 'rationalist' society of India have had to wonder why the <b>christos</b> are behind all the (so often paraded in the media) mass conversions of Hindus 'Dalits' into this temporary stopover which the christos have the gall to call Buddhism (a temporary stopover before the church attempts to harvest their souls):
http://www.rationalistinternational.net/ar...ist_2001/83.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->God longs for all Hindus!
<b>COVERT OPERATIONS OF THE EVANGELICAL CHURCH IN INDIA</b>
Sanal Edamaruku
<b>Why does the Evangelical Church secretly sponsor a mass conversion of "untouchable" Hindus to Buddhism?</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

<b>ADDED:</b>
And here is the christo 'dalit' movement working hand-in-glove with churches to turn the recently-invented christian model called "Dalit Theology" into a pattern to be applied (for conversion purposes) on all the "oppressed" all over the world:
<b>Christoterrorist site:
www.nccidalittaskforce.com/dalit-task-force/drum/consultation/dalit-theology.html</b>

This is a summary/sampler of the plans that world-wide churches have to repeat their various conversion models - models targeted to specific groups - to hijack different movements all over the world into christoterrorist outfits instead:
<b>Christoterrorist site: www.cca.org.hk/blog/cca/2004_07_01_cca.htm</b>
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->He also mentioned about Asian theologians articulating their contextual theologies like Minjung theology in Korea, Homeland theology in Taiwan, People�s theology in the Philippines, Water Buffalo theology in Thailand, Dalit theology in India, and Buraku liberation theology in Japan.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Ain't jeebusjehovallah grand. Christoterrorist don't care about anyone. They just want to harvest the unconverted in the world, to become sheep fodder to feed to their non-existent cannibal 'Lamb' jeebus.


Meanwhile, Ambedkar knew all about islam including what this terrorism had done to Bauddha Dharma in India. Elst quotes Ambedkar here:
http://koenraadelst.voiceofdharma.com/bo...h/ch10.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->However, here too the commonality of Hindu and Buddhist interests in facing Islam is explicit, at least in Dr. Ambedkar?s own writings though less so in those of his present-day followers.  Whatever criticism of Hinduism Ambedkar may have formulated, his open rejection of both Christianity and Islam (who assiduously courted him in the hope that he would bring the Scheduled Castes into their fold) has endeared him to Hindu activists.  Ambedkar took a cool and hard look at Islam as a sworn enemy of Hindu society, even while being bitterly critical of the latter.

Dr. Ambedkar was particularly outspoken about the social injustices in Islam, especially in his book Pakistan or the Partition of India (1940).  According to his biographer Dhananjay Keer, “some penetrating and caustic paragraphs were deleted, it is said, at the instance of Ambedkar’s close admirers” for the sake of his own safety; but what remains is still quite radical.21 Dr. Ambedkar also rejected Islam because it had destroyed Buddhism in India and other countries.  Many present-day Ambedkarites never tire of quoting his one-liner: “The history of India is nothing but a history of a mortal conflict between Buddhism and Brahmanism.”22 But Dr. Ambedkar has also written: “There can be no doubt that the fall of Buddhism was due to the invasions of the Muslims.”23

Referring to the Persian word for “idol”, but, derived from Buddha, Dr. Ambedkar observes: “Thus the origin of the word indicates that in the Muslim mind idol worship had come to be identified with the religion of Buddha.  To the Muslims they were one and the same thing.  The mission to break idols thus became the mission to destroy Buddhism.  Islam destroyed Buddhism not only in India but wherever it went.  Bactria, Parthia, Afghanistan, Gandhara and Chinese Turkestan (…) in all these countries Islam destroyed Buddhism.”24

Moreover: “The Muslim invaders sacked the Buddhist universities of Nalanda, Vikramasila, Jagaddala, Odantapuri to name only a few.  They razed to the ground Buddhist monasteries with which the country was studded.  The monks fled away in thousands to Nepal, Tibet and other places outside India. A very large number were killed outright by the Muslim commanders.”25

It is useful to quote Dr. Ambedkar as restating these facts, for the secularists work overtime to deny them.  Thus, Marxist history-rewriter Praful Bidwai claims: “Despotic state power persecuted Buddhists for centuries as brahminical Hinduism held sway in large parts of India.  Buddhism was all but banished from this land and found refuge in Sri Lanka, Tibet, Myanmar, Thailand and eastwards.”26 In fact, Buddhism went to these lands at a time when it was still flourishing in India, so that at the time of the Muslim invasions, the surviving monks fled to those countries because they knew a Buddhist establishment was already in existence there.

Today, Dalit leaders like Bahujan Samaj Party president Kanshi Ram woo the Muslim community.27 Yet, the pro-Islamic orientation which some of them (most staunchly V.T. Rajshekar in his fortnightly Dalit Voice) want to give to the Ambedkarite movement, is not at all in consonance with Dr. Ambedkar’s own view of Islam.28 Many of Dr. Ambedkar’s observations on Islam would now be branded as “Hindu communalist” by the very people who claim his heritage. in fact, the literature of the RSS Parivar offers no counterpart to Ambedkar’s strong language about Islam: he was more openly anti-Islamic than Savarkar, Golwalkar or any Hindutva stalwart who is regularly accused of being just that.  From the Hindu Revivalist point of view, Ambedkar, in writing his incisive criticism of Islam, did the homework which the Hindutva ideologues neglected.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

The predictable result of the movement having been hijacked by christoislamicommunazism is this. Notice how christianism has always had this effect on normal, decent people:
http://koenraadelst.voiceofdharma.com/bo...ah/ch1.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->As you can verify from any publisher’s book list, Narayan Guru is not very popular among Indian secularists and foreign India-watchers, quite unlike that other Untouchable, Dr. B.R. Ambedkar: “today, scarcely anyone outside Kerala even knows about Narayan Guru”, while by contrast, “Ambedkar’s statues outnumber those of Gandhiji”.46 Narayan Guru upsets the now-dominant Ambedkarite description of Hindu tradition as a den of caste oppression beyond redemption.

Unlike secular people who were insensitive to the spiritual dimension, such as Dr. Ambedkar and Ramaswamy Naicker, “Narayan Guru consistently taught against conversion, he himself took back into the Hindu fold persons from the lower castes who had gone over to other religions”.47 And the contrast with Ambedkar’s Dalit movement persists when we study the long-term results: “The legacy of Narayan Guru is a society elevated, in accord, the lower classes educated and full of dignity and a feeling of self-worth.  The legacy of Ambedkar is a bunch screaming at everyone, a bunch always demanding and denouncing, a bunch mired in self-pity and hatred, a society at war with itself.”48


47A. Shourie: Worshipping False Gods, p.381. About ?Perivar? Ramaswamy Naicker, see Amulya Ganguli: ?The atheist tradition?, Indian Express, 20-9-1995, and M.D. Gopalakrishnan: Periyar, Father of the Tamil Race.

48A. Shourie: Worshipping False Gods, p.381. The last sentence refers to the foul language, violent ways and infighting among the low-caste parties claiming Ambedkar?s legacy.  Christian missionaries likewise report that communities converted to Christianity have progressed much more in the last half century than the castes which have followed Dr. Ambedkar into neo-Buddhism or into Dalit activism.
(I disagree with this last. It is christoterrorism that masquerades as the modern Ambedkarite movement - again, it's supposed to serve as a temporary stopover before the people thus caught can be converted into christomania.)<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->