US Elections 2008 - III

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Apteji,

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->As far as I can see, you are making a few snide remarks instead of trying to respond to what I posted here (best example would be the reason for carter's defeat).<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Reading the vitriol you have reserved for one candidate without listing ONE accomplishment of other; I don't understand as to how you can expect others to take you seriously.
As for my remarks on Carter, he was attacked by a rabbit and he did see a UFO. No <i>mis-speak</i> there. Analysis might be faulty on that one, but I'm only living up to your standards here.

Here's Kennedy in 80s convention:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Kennedy came into the Democratic convention at Madison Square Garden in New York City with 1,225 delegates to Carter’s 1,981 and 122 uncommitted. Kennedy’s only chance to wrest the nomination from Carter, who had enough delegates to win, was to pass an “open rule” motion.

Kennedy wanted the rules governing delegate voting thrown out, minority platform reports presented for floor vote requirement, pledged delegates must be released, the losing challenger must be allowed to address the convention and the president must take a loyalty pledge.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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And here's a Kennedy supporter from 80s asking why what's good for the goose not good for the gander: link
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->But in 1980, while still a Democrat, I supported Teddy Kennedy for the nomination. I stayed with Teddy through the convention. It wasn't easy.

In 1980, Kennedy came into the Democratic convention at Madison Square Garden in New York City with 1,225 delegates to President Carter's 1,981, with 122 delegates uncommitted.

Kennedy stood on principle and people admired him for the fighting the good fight.
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If Kennedy could take it to the convention when he trailed by 756 delegates, why can't Hillary go to the convention trailing by far less? Would it be so awful?</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->If you misspeak once you understand, but when you repeat the same (as was the case with RFK assassination), there is something seriously wrong.
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RFK assassination was no mis-speak - try again. Even Robert Kennedy stood by Clinton - before and after the statement. Media clearly spun it despite clarification available on YouTube even a layman to watch. Obama leaning Time called that Obama bobblehead Olberman a 'gas bag' (your favorite site HuffPo quoting Time here) for taking that stance:
Time Critic: Olbermann's Special Comment Shows He's "Just Another Of The Cable Gasbags He Used To Be A Corrective To"
Read entire article here
Gas bags will continue to spin this. I guess the Colbert 'truthiness' baton has been passed to Obamaies.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Just because you rubbed everyone in the wrong way and got scarred in the process means NOTHING.
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You come back with some legislation or Acts by Obama or Kennedy on Healthcare and then we'll take discussion to next level.