<!--QuoteBegin-Shambhu+Feb 4 2008, 10:50 PM-->QUOTE(Shambhu @ Feb 4 2008, 10:50 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->About #2 above:
I think Obama will try to disprove his muslimness (or rumors thereof), and encourage faith-based (xtian-based) initiatives. An understanding woman pres is Dharma's best bet. Also, Hillary would be sure to encourage more diversity than Obama to show people that it is she and not Obama who is more pro-black.
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There is already a campaign for Christians for Obamaa. They will hijack the civil rights movement and make it a christian based movement.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iqPqBVxxNbY
Barack Obama's vision for a 'United' States of America is rooted in Jesus Christ's teaching of loving your enemies. Barack Obama discusses religion, faith and politics. Relevant for Mitt Romney's speech about his Mormon faith.
"I think we make a mistake when we fail to acknowledge the power of faith in people's lives â in the lives of the American people â and I think it's time that we join a serious debate about how to reconcile faith with our modern, pluralistic democracy."
"Americans are a religious people. 90 percent of us believe in God, 70 percent affiliate themselves with an organized religion, 38 percent call themselves committed Christians, and substantially more people in America believe in angels than they do in evolution."
"As progressives, we cannot abandon the field of religious discourse. Because when we ignore the debate about what it means to be a good Christian or Muslim or Jew; when we discuss religion only in the negative sense of where or how it should not be practiced, rather than in the positive sense of what it tells us about our obligations towards one another; when we shy away from religious venues and religious broadcasts because we assume that we will be unwelcome - others will fill the vacuum, those with the most insular views of faith, or those who cynically use religion to justify partisan ends."
Keywords: barack obama religion politics christianity christians christian speech spirituality faith in america hope change
"Imagine Lincoln's Second Inaugural Address without reference to "the judgments of the Lord." Or King's I Have a Dream speech without references to "all of God's children." Their summoning of a higher truth helped inspire what had seemed impossible, and move the nation to embrace a common destiny. After all, the problems of poverty and racism, the uninsured and the unemployed, are not simply technical problems in search of the perfect ten point plan. They are rooted in both societal indifference and individual callousness - in the imperfections of man. Solving these problems will require changes in government policy, but it will also require changes in hearts and a change in minds."
"We might recognize some overlapping values that both religious and secular people share when it comes to the moral and material direction of our country."
Given the increasing diversity of America's population, the dangers of sectarianism have never been greater. Whatever we once were, we are no longer just a Christian nation; we are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers."
"Even if we did have only Christians in our midst, if we expelled every non-Christian from the United States of America, whose Christianity would we teach in the schools? Would we go with James Dobson's, or Al Sharpton's? Which passages of Scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is ok and that eating shellfish is abomination? How about Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith? Or should we just stick to the Sermon on the Mount - a passage that is so radical that it's doubtful that our own Defense Department would survive its application?"
http://youtube.com/user/ChristforBarackObama
Subscribers: 178
Channel Views: 8,678
Support Barack Obama in his vision and mission to bring harmony between believers of all religions, between voters and politicians of both parties, between ethnic groups, between nations and between men and women.
CHRIST FOR BARACK OBAMA, CHRIST FOR ALL CANDIDATES
Christ for Barack Obama doesn't mean Christ against the other candidates as some people seem to think is my message. Do you assume that when I say 'Christ loves you' that I mean 'Christ doesn't love your mother' or 'Christ doesn't love the person you are in competition with'? I don't: I've said in my earliest videos that Christ loves every human being and every candidate and is at work in the heart of everyone.
When you assume that 'Christ for Barack Obama' means 'Christ against Hillary' or 'Christ against Rudy' than it is your belief, whether you realize this or not, that Christ is against certain human beings.
It is our responsibility to look at the confusion and absence of love in our heart that makes us think this, to look at the motes in our eyes.
Why did I choose the monicker 'ChristforBarackObama' then? To make people think about this subject and to make people aware of the importance of Barack Obama's Christian faith in his private and political life.
Most importantly though: I believe, and here you might obviously disagree, that of all candidates Barack Obama has done the most work and has accomplished the most in freeing his heart from hatred and petty self-interest to put his life into the service of God and Christ. He tries his best every day to be aware that politics is not about acquiring power but to put power into the service of the common good of the American people and human beings around the world. He shows this by trying not to be attacking persons, not to put his political life in the hands of financial powers and to formulate policies that empower people to make the best of their lives and communities.
More than any policy issue, that's what explains why Barack Obama has connected with the hearts of so many Americans and world citizens. This does not imply he runs as a Christian candidate in the same sense that he is not running as a black candidate. It means people of all religions, agnostics and atheists connect to Obama's inner values of putting aside self-interest and putting aside the notion that Democrats are different and better human beings than Republicans, Christians are better than non-Christians and Americans are better than non-Americans.
He lives the political version of 'Love thy enemies', the core and most difficult teaching Christ has revealed to mankind. For 2000 years most attention in Christianity has been focused on 'Love your neighbours as your neighbours are like you and you are better and more loved by Christ than others'. Now the time has come to recognize Christ and the Kingdom of Heaven are at the center of the soul of every human being and to realize that when we hate another person or group as a whole we hate God and we hate Christ. We can disapprove of other's actions and even be angry about the actions and be angry about their hate, it's a healthy sign of longing for justice. But when we hate the whole person or the whole group we also hate God and Christ who are inseparable of that human being or group.
Christ has given to us his life on earth as Jesus as the example we can follow. If you reject Christ's teaching of 'Love your enemies' you reject Christ's love for you that He conveys in this teaching. What set Christ apart from other human beings is that He loved the Pharisees, the prostitutes, Samaritans, Romans, the thief next to him on the cross, Romans and those that put Him to death. Loving His enemies was what made it possible for Him to bear His cross, loving your enemies is the greatest strength you can acquire in your life.
If, even after this message, you still believe 'Christ for Barack Obama' is blasphemous or unchristian or insulting to you: my apologies. Yet I hope you realize I am responsible for the thoughts and feelings of non-love for others I feel, you are responsible for yours.
Love to you,
ChristforBarackObama
I think Obama will try to disprove his muslimness (or rumors thereof), and encourage faith-based (xtian-based) initiatives. An understanding woman pres is Dharma's best bet. Also, Hillary would be sure to encourage more diversity than Obama to show people that it is she and not Obama who is more pro-black.
[right][snapback]78071[/snapback][/right]
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There is already a campaign for Christians for Obamaa. They will hijack the civil rights movement and make it a christian based movement.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iqPqBVxxNbY
Barack Obama's vision for a 'United' States of America is rooted in Jesus Christ's teaching of loving your enemies. Barack Obama discusses religion, faith and politics. Relevant for Mitt Romney's speech about his Mormon faith.
"I think we make a mistake when we fail to acknowledge the power of faith in people's lives â in the lives of the American people â and I think it's time that we join a serious debate about how to reconcile faith with our modern, pluralistic democracy."
"Americans are a religious people. 90 percent of us believe in God, 70 percent affiliate themselves with an organized religion, 38 percent call themselves committed Christians, and substantially more people in America believe in angels than they do in evolution."
"As progressives, we cannot abandon the field of religious discourse. Because when we ignore the debate about what it means to be a good Christian or Muslim or Jew; when we discuss religion only in the negative sense of where or how it should not be practiced, rather than in the positive sense of what it tells us about our obligations towards one another; when we shy away from religious venues and religious broadcasts because we assume that we will be unwelcome - others will fill the vacuum, those with the most insular views of faith, or those who cynically use religion to justify partisan ends."
Keywords: barack obama religion politics christianity christians christian speech spirituality faith in america hope change
"Imagine Lincoln's Second Inaugural Address without reference to "the judgments of the Lord." Or King's I Have a Dream speech without references to "all of God's children." Their summoning of a higher truth helped inspire what had seemed impossible, and move the nation to embrace a common destiny. After all, the problems of poverty and racism, the uninsured and the unemployed, are not simply technical problems in search of the perfect ten point plan. They are rooted in both societal indifference and individual callousness - in the imperfections of man. Solving these problems will require changes in government policy, but it will also require changes in hearts and a change in minds."
"We might recognize some overlapping values that both religious and secular people share when it comes to the moral and material direction of our country."
Given the increasing diversity of America's population, the dangers of sectarianism have never been greater. Whatever we once were, we are no longer just a Christian nation; we are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers."
"Even if we did have only Christians in our midst, if we expelled every non-Christian from the United States of America, whose Christianity would we teach in the schools? Would we go with James Dobson's, or Al Sharpton's? Which passages of Scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is ok and that eating shellfish is abomination? How about Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith? Or should we just stick to the Sermon on the Mount - a passage that is so radical that it's doubtful that our own Defense Department would survive its application?"
http://youtube.com/user/ChristforBarackObama
Subscribers: 178
Channel Views: 8,678
Support Barack Obama in his vision and mission to bring harmony between believers of all religions, between voters and politicians of both parties, between ethnic groups, between nations and between men and women.
CHRIST FOR BARACK OBAMA, CHRIST FOR ALL CANDIDATES
Christ for Barack Obama doesn't mean Christ against the other candidates as some people seem to think is my message. Do you assume that when I say 'Christ loves you' that I mean 'Christ doesn't love your mother' or 'Christ doesn't love the person you are in competition with'? I don't: I've said in my earliest videos that Christ loves every human being and every candidate and is at work in the heart of everyone.
When you assume that 'Christ for Barack Obama' means 'Christ against Hillary' or 'Christ against Rudy' than it is your belief, whether you realize this or not, that Christ is against certain human beings.
It is our responsibility to look at the confusion and absence of love in our heart that makes us think this, to look at the motes in our eyes.
Why did I choose the monicker 'ChristforBarackObama' then? To make people think about this subject and to make people aware of the importance of Barack Obama's Christian faith in his private and political life.
Most importantly though: I believe, and here you might obviously disagree, that of all candidates Barack Obama has done the most work and has accomplished the most in freeing his heart from hatred and petty self-interest to put his life into the service of God and Christ. He tries his best every day to be aware that politics is not about acquiring power but to put power into the service of the common good of the American people and human beings around the world. He shows this by trying not to be attacking persons, not to put his political life in the hands of financial powers and to formulate policies that empower people to make the best of their lives and communities.
More than any policy issue, that's what explains why Barack Obama has connected with the hearts of so many Americans and world citizens. This does not imply he runs as a Christian candidate in the same sense that he is not running as a black candidate. It means people of all religions, agnostics and atheists connect to Obama's inner values of putting aside self-interest and putting aside the notion that Democrats are different and better human beings than Republicans, Christians are better than non-Christians and Americans are better than non-Americans.
He lives the political version of 'Love thy enemies', the core and most difficult teaching Christ has revealed to mankind. For 2000 years most attention in Christianity has been focused on 'Love your neighbours as your neighbours are like you and you are better and more loved by Christ than others'. Now the time has come to recognize Christ and the Kingdom of Heaven are at the center of the soul of every human being and to realize that when we hate another person or group as a whole we hate God and we hate Christ. We can disapprove of other's actions and even be angry about the actions and be angry about their hate, it's a healthy sign of longing for justice. But when we hate the whole person or the whole group we also hate God and Christ who are inseparable of that human being or group.
Christ has given to us his life on earth as Jesus as the example we can follow. If you reject Christ's teaching of 'Love your enemies' you reject Christ's love for you that He conveys in this teaching. What set Christ apart from other human beings is that He loved the Pharisees, the prostitutes, Samaritans, Romans, the thief next to him on the cross, Romans and those that put Him to death. Loving His enemies was what made it possible for Him to bear His cross, loving your enemies is the greatest strength you can acquire in your life.
If, even after this message, you still believe 'Christ for Barack Obama' is blasphemous or unchristian or insulting to you: my apologies. Yet I hope you realize I am responsible for the thoughts and feelings of non-love for others I feel, you are responsible for yours.
Love to you,
ChristforBarackObama