Thanks for the explanation. (I didn't make it clear in my post 126, but I didn't/don't think you to have ever agreed with any birth-based scheme. Your earlier posts in the other thread (which I referred to in #126) already indicated to me where you stood on the matter. <!--emo&
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Acharya Hajari Prasad wrote that in 1940-50s. vAngmaya kosha is collection of essays. He was trying to trace the memory about the origins and progress of jAti-s and what ancients (writers of purAna-s) thought about different jAti-s.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->So then he was surveying probable causes for Jatis based on what earlier people had thought were probable causes? Are there actually any explanations that indicate <i>certainty</i> as to how they came about? That may turn out to be an unnecessary question: if there were any (easily discovered) documented reasons to clearly establish the origins of various Jatis, there would probably be no need for such a survey to be undertaken by the Acharya of #125.
Aren't Kshatriya and Shudra considered Varnas rather than Jatis? :confused

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Acharya Hajari Prasad wrote that in 1940-50s. vAngmaya kosha is collection of essays. He was trying to trace the memory about the origins and progress of jAti-s and what ancients (writers of purAna-s) thought about different jAti-s.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->So then he was surveying probable causes for Jatis based on what earlier people had thought were probable causes? Are there actually any explanations that indicate <i>certainty</i> as to how they came about? That may turn out to be an unnecessary question: if there were any (easily discovered) documented reasons to clearly establish the origins of various Jatis, there would probably be no need for such a survey to be undertaken by the Acharya of #125.
Aren't Kshatriya and Shudra considered Varnas rather than Jatis? :confused