05-23-2007, 05:09 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-sbajwa+May 23 2007, 01:47 AM-->QUOTE(sbajwa @ May 23 2007, 01:47 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Is Sikhism part of Hinduism?
My answer is that "It depends upon what is Hinduism!!"
Culturally Punjabi Sikhs are Hindus since they belong to the land of the Sindhu valley civilization.Â
Sikh philosophy is very close to the Vedant Philosophy if we say that "Vedanta alone is Hinduism". Can or do we?
So.... Punjabi Sikhs themselves when they read Guru Granth Sahib's bani of Bhagat Ravidass, Bhagat Kabir, Sheikh Farid, Namdeo, Dhanna, etc... they themselves know that they are from the land of Saints called Bharat. IT IS A FACT THAT CANNOT BE DENIED!!Â
"Even DSS or RadhaSawami had their own views and they are not Sikhs. "
Once again they are Sikhs of their own Gurus who are DEHDHARI! Dehdhari means "a person" Guru. While 24 million people who call themselves Sikhs in this world do not believe in a DEHDHARI Baba., only a BOOK that they prefer to call their Guru.
That's the problem... Sikhs of Nanak believe that SGGS a book is their Guru... while Sikhs of Radhasoami or DSS believe in their own human gurus.
Sikhs believe that God is nirankar! (formless, timeless without gender), Aajuni (free from birth and death), saibhang (cannot be destroyed),,, and this is what was told by Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji... and this is where SGGS starts...
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Good answer.
The timing of this crisis is not strange,
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/From_La...how/2067969.cms
<b>From Lahore, Babbar Khalsa stokes Dera fire</b>
23
NEW DELHI: Pakistan has rushed to fish in troubled Punjab waters in the wake of the Sikh-Dera Sacha Sauda feud, with Babbar Khalsa International chief Wadhawan Singh Babbar, operating from Lahore under ISI patronage, seeking to stoke violence in the state.
Government sources in Punjab and here disclosed that Wadhawan, who is on Indiaâs 'Most Wanted' list, has been in touch with radical elements in the Sikh community at a time when the Dera fire have been raging.
They also said that Wadhawan had worked on the radical Sikh priest whose Gurudwara near Talwandi Sabo in Bathinda was the catalyst for setting off the clash with the Dera over advertisements featuring its chief, Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh, attired as Guru Gobind Singh.
Telephone intercepts with agencies clearly bring out the interest of the ISI auxiliary in fanning the confrontation which has triggered fears of revival of extremism in Punjab.
My answer is that "It depends upon what is Hinduism!!"
Culturally Punjabi Sikhs are Hindus since they belong to the land of the Sindhu valley civilization.Â
Sikh philosophy is very close to the Vedant Philosophy if we say that "Vedanta alone is Hinduism". Can or do we?
So.... Punjabi Sikhs themselves when they read Guru Granth Sahib's bani of Bhagat Ravidass, Bhagat Kabir, Sheikh Farid, Namdeo, Dhanna, etc... they themselves know that they are from the land of Saints called Bharat. IT IS A FACT THAT CANNOT BE DENIED!!Â
"Even DSS or RadhaSawami had their own views and they are not Sikhs. "
Once again they are Sikhs of their own Gurus who are DEHDHARI! Dehdhari means "a person" Guru. While 24 million people who call themselves Sikhs in this world do not believe in a DEHDHARI Baba., only a BOOK that they prefer to call their Guru.
That's the problem... Sikhs of Nanak believe that SGGS a book is their Guru... while Sikhs of Radhasoami or DSS believe in their own human gurus.
Sikhs believe that God is nirankar! (formless, timeless without gender), Aajuni (free from birth and death), saibhang (cannot be destroyed),,, and this is what was told by Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji... and this is where SGGS starts...
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Good answer.
The timing of this crisis is not strange,
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/From_La...how/2067969.cms
<b>From Lahore, Babbar Khalsa stokes Dera fire</b>
23
NEW DELHI: Pakistan has rushed to fish in troubled Punjab waters in the wake of the Sikh-Dera Sacha Sauda feud, with Babbar Khalsa International chief Wadhawan Singh Babbar, operating from Lahore under ISI patronage, seeking to stoke violence in the state.
Government sources in Punjab and here disclosed that Wadhawan, who is on Indiaâs 'Most Wanted' list, has been in touch with radical elements in the Sikh community at a time when the Dera fire have been raging.
They also said that Wadhawan had worked on the radical Sikh priest whose Gurudwara near Talwandi Sabo in Bathinda was the catalyst for setting off the clash with the Dera over advertisements featuring its chief, Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh, attired as Guru Gobind Singh.
Telephone intercepts with agencies clearly bring out the interest of the ISI auxiliary in fanning the confrontation which has triggered fears of revival of extremism in Punjab.