05-16-2007, 08:32 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-ramana+May 15 2007, 10:35 PM-->QUOTE(ramana @ May 15 2007, 10:35 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Yes, governance is always bad in UP. But if you compare with current center, UPAÂ
 We also need to understand that UP-Bihar region has suffered the most throughout history- decline of the large Hindu kingdoms, the Delhi Sultantate zabardasti rule, the Mughal Mansabdari, the British Zamindari systems, INC misrule( After Gobind Vallabh Pant and Rajendra Prasad it was down hill all the way) and the jahaliya period of the social engineering turds_the Mulayam and Lallo Yadav rule. So lets hope that there is a five year period of the heart of India to recover. First Bihar threw out the rascals and now UP has done the same.
Need to see how UPA will thwart the development by withholding funds or worse releaseing them slowly. BSP has to do something to kick start the economic development after taking care of Law and Order. Maybe attract private capital.
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It is my observation or experience during my long stay in UPâs one of the biggest city. I was privilege to stay in a locality where majority of my friendâs Dad were either Judge, IAS, IPS, Senior Engineers in Electricity board, head of Telephone Dept, or other big government officials happen to live there. I have seen worst corruption, misuse of Government resources for personal use. Office staffs were used as 24 x7 servants at home, office vehicles were used for fun trip anywhere in India. How to override electricity meter, I learnt at very young age? Taking bribe was no shame. Cover up in crime was ok. Government machinery is so corrupt that it crossed all shocking level. Nothing will change till they put all these people in jail on corruption charges, because even when they get suspended they still enjoy luxury, except other friends send their loot to them and of course even on suspension people still gets some percentage of salary.
Top to bottom is corrupt and they are eating up every development fund.
UP is a state where asking Dowry and discussing amount is a status symbol. During those days Dowry cash rate/payment for IAS was 1.5 Lacs, IPS 2.0lacs Engineer 55K, Businessman 45K, Doctor 55K and Professor/teacher 25K. 75% Dowry should be given before marriage. Dowry rate are based on potential of a person to make money under table. Now rate must be much higher. People had no shame asking. Leaking question paper was common. Every question paper of PMT, UP Univ degree, and UP boardâs exams were available to privilege kids.
Even then Gooda Gardi was very common. Gangs and their back etc was a status symbol.
Caste was a core factor. OBCs are not only rich but very powerful.
Whole system rots.
How anyone can fix this?
 We also need to understand that UP-Bihar region has suffered the most throughout history- decline of the large Hindu kingdoms, the Delhi Sultantate zabardasti rule, the Mughal Mansabdari, the British Zamindari systems, INC misrule( After Gobind Vallabh Pant and Rajendra Prasad it was down hill all the way) and the jahaliya period of the social engineering turds_the Mulayam and Lallo Yadav rule. So lets hope that there is a five year period of the heart of India to recover. First Bihar threw out the rascals and now UP has done the same.
Need to see how UPA will thwart the development by withholding funds or worse releaseing them slowly. BSP has to do something to kick start the economic development after taking care of Law and Order. Maybe attract private capital.
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It is my observation or experience during my long stay in UPâs one of the biggest city. I was privilege to stay in a locality where majority of my friendâs Dad were either Judge, IAS, IPS, Senior Engineers in Electricity board, head of Telephone Dept, or other big government officials happen to live there. I have seen worst corruption, misuse of Government resources for personal use. Office staffs were used as 24 x7 servants at home, office vehicles were used for fun trip anywhere in India. How to override electricity meter, I learnt at very young age? Taking bribe was no shame. Cover up in crime was ok. Government machinery is so corrupt that it crossed all shocking level. Nothing will change till they put all these people in jail on corruption charges, because even when they get suspended they still enjoy luxury, except other friends send their loot to them and of course even on suspension people still gets some percentage of salary.
Top to bottom is corrupt and they are eating up every development fund.
UP is a state where asking Dowry and discussing amount is a status symbol. During those days Dowry cash rate/payment for IAS was 1.5 Lacs, IPS 2.0lacs Engineer 55K, Businessman 45K, Doctor 55K and Professor/teacher 25K. 75% Dowry should be given before marriage. Dowry rate are based on potential of a person to make money under table. Now rate must be much higher. People had no shame asking. Leaking question paper was common. Every question paper of PMT, UP Univ degree, and UP boardâs exams were available to privilege kids.
Even then Gooda Gardi was very common. Gangs and their back etc was a status symbol.
Caste was a core factor. OBCs are not only rich but very powerful.
Whole system rots.
How anyone can fix this?