05-10-2007, 02:59 AM
Flaw 1) Not a corpse, a resurrection body. Paul used the analogy of a seed - the seed is different from the plant that grows from it, though the two are related.
Flaw 2) Um, I'd like to point out the many Christian scientists, not only now, but all through history. You are referring to fundamentalists, and judging the many by the few.
Flaw 3) Um, sure. We don't have people like mother Teresa who spend their whole lives looking after others. Also, Christianity teaches that everyone sins - even Christians. If they didn't, they wouldn't need Jesus to die on the cross for them.
Flaw 4) Some believe in Satan, some do not. Some feel that it is a metaphor for temptation. Few believe that it has red horns and a pitchfork - it would have little power to tempt people if it were like this. The theory goes it was once an angel, so it is likely that if it exists as a sentient being, it would be beautiful.
Flaw 5) The first quote means that believers must be devoted to Christ above all else. The second warns that by following Christ, Christians may be rejected by their families. And by the way, Luke 10:35-6 is actually part of the story of the Good Samaritan. You meant Matthew.
Flaw 6) Yes, Christians have done some horrible things - when they ignored the Commandment: to love your neighbour as yourself. But then, people generally have done some awful things. Let's look at 2 recent examples of unpleasant people:
Hitler - Atheist, tried to destroy the Catholic Church, and replace it with a Reich church devoted to him. Him regime killed the occasional million people or 6.
Stalin - Atheist. Killed a *cough*few*cough* people in the purges.
There was war before Christianity. There was rape and murder and slavery and thievery. And some of it was committed by atheists - should you all be blamed?
I know several bisexual and gay Christians, all of whom are made most welcome in churches. Christians are told to love everyone; even those they feel are sinning. Hate the sin, but love the sinner. So even those who do feel homosexuality is a sin are sinning if they are rude or in any way unpleasant towards gay people. I point this out to mean Christian people. Incidentally, the only abuse received by the gay people above was from rude, arrogant teenagers who are - you guessed it - Atheist!
Flaw 7) I know a 17 year old Christian who has a young son and is yet to marry his girlfriend. Christians may try not the think about having sex with random girls they see, but this is about respect - it is polite not to think of girls purely for the purposes of sex.
Flaw 8) The Nazis weren't a Christian hate group. Hate groups will appear wherever one group believes it is superior to another. 'Christians' who are members of hate groups are ignoring their God, who taught them to love and that all people are equal before him. But I agree, Buddhists are nice <!--emo&
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And finally, to disprove the intro. Science has proven nothing other than that a literal, fundamentalist interpretation is silly. Science can show how most things happen. But it has no clue why things happen; it can only use the idea of cause and effect. The big bang is argued to be the cause of the universe, but it does not create anything - it states that everything already existed, in an infinitely compressed form. Science says how, religion says why. This is why, for many people, there need be no competition between science and religion.
Flaw 2) Um, I'd like to point out the many Christian scientists, not only now, but all through history. You are referring to fundamentalists, and judging the many by the few.
Flaw 3) Um, sure. We don't have people like mother Teresa who spend their whole lives looking after others. Also, Christianity teaches that everyone sins - even Christians. If they didn't, they wouldn't need Jesus to die on the cross for them.
Flaw 4) Some believe in Satan, some do not. Some feel that it is a metaphor for temptation. Few believe that it has red horns and a pitchfork - it would have little power to tempt people if it were like this. The theory goes it was once an angel, so it is likely that if it exists as a sentient being, it would be beautiful.
Flaw 5) The first quote means that believers must be devoted to Christ above all else. The second warns that by following Christ, Christians may be rejected by their families. And by the way, Luke 10:35-6 is actually part of the story of the Good Samaritan. You meant Matthew.
Flaw 6) Yes, Christians have done some horrible things - when they ignored the Commandment: to love your neighbour as yourself. But then, people generally have done some awful things. Let's look at 2 recent examples of unpleasant people:
Hitler - Atheist, tried to destroy the Catholic Church, and replace it with a Reich church devoted to him. Him regime killed the occasional million people or 6.
Stalin - Atheist. Killed a *cough*few*cough* people in the purges.
There was war before Christianity. There was rape and murder and slavery and thievery. And some of it was committed by atheists - should you all be blamed?
I know several bisexual and gay Christians, all of whom are made most welcome in churches. Christians are told to love everyone; even those they feel are sinning. Hate the sin, but love the sinner. So even those who do feel homosexuality is a sin are sinning if they are rude or in any way unpleasant towards gay people. I point this out to mean Christian people. Incidentally, the only abuse received by the gay people above was from rude, arrogant teenagers who are - you guessed it - Atheist!
Flaw 7) I know a 17 year old Christian who has a young son and is yet to marry his girlfriend. Christians may try not the think about having sex with random girls they see, but this is about respect - it is polite not to think of girls purely for the purposes of sex.
Flaw 8) The Nazis weren't a Christian hate group. Hate groups will appear wherever one group believes it is superior to another. 'Christians' who are members of hate groups are ignoring their God, who taught them to love and that all people are equal before him. But I agree, Buddhists are nice <!--emo&

And finally, to disprove the intro. Science has proven nothing other than that a literal, fundamentalist interpretation is silly. Science can show how most things happen. But it has no clue why things happen; it can only use the idea of cause and effect. The big bang is argued to be the cause of the universe, but it does not create anything - it states that everything already existed, in an infinitely compressed form. Science says how, religion says why. This is why, for many people, there need be no competition between science and religion.