05-04-2007, 04:12 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Ashok Kumar+May 3 2007, 05:23 PM-->QUOTE(Ashok Kumar @ May 3 2007, 05:23 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->After chanting a mantra for a long time one often finds that mantra starts chanting itself! <!--emo&
--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> This is the ajapA. Even during sleep or dream one may find that japa was going on completely on its own.
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Very well expressed. In fact, ajapa-japa continues not just in dream, but even after death of the physical body! There is a beautiful story in Vipassana tradition about this ajapa-japa from Tibet.
The syllable OM and mantra Om Mani Padme Hum are the primary dhAraNas (in beginning) used in Tibetean japa techniques. There was a great bauddha yogi Tilopa, who had realized a very deep state of ajapa Japa. His whole body always used to hum the sound of OM slowly and softly, without his efforts, for everyone to hear. When he died, the sound instead of dying, became even louder. His fellow sannyasis, after his death, kept his body in a samadhi, which also continued to emit that sound of Om.
One addition here. It is important to undertand the difference between the "humming" that happens if mind is kept in repition of anything including a third class remix song - and mantra-siddha ajapa-japa. Ajapa-japa is a 'state' where the whole existance become the realization of the ishta mantra, and ista mantra alone remains, as in true advaita. In Sant mat, this is known as anahat-naad as Sant Kabir called it. In Sufis too, the state is very well known and documented.
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Very well expressed. In fact, ajapa-japa continues not just in dream, but even after death of the physical body! There is a beautiful story in Vipassana tradition about this ajapa-japa from Tibet.
The syllable OM and mantra Om Mani Padme Hum are the primary dhAraNas (in beginning) used in Tibetean japa techniques. There was a great bauddha yogi Tilopa, who had realized a very deep state of ajapa Japa. His whole body always used to hum the sound of OM slowly and softly, without his efforts, for everyone to hear. When he died, the sound instead of dying, became even louder. His fellow sannyasis, after his death, kept his body in a samadhi, which also continued to emit that sound of Om.
One addition here. It is important to undertand the difference between the "humming" that happens if mind is kept in repition of anything including a third class remix song - and mantra-siddha ajapa-japa. Ajapa-japa is a 'state' where the whole existance become the realization of the ishta mantra, and ista mantra alone remains, as in true advaita. In Sant mat, this is known as anahat-naad as Sant Kabir called it. In Sufis too, the state is very well known and documented.