02-17-2007, 05:58 PM
A very interesting passage found in http://nasaspaceflight.com
Do I smell Hate Burn????
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India is just as selfish, insular and greedy as many other nations, probably 100 times worse than the self important and Franco-centrics, Francophiles or French-Fry politicans. India has been against many of the United States ally's, they only care about their own skin and India was something of a foe during the Cold-War.
Remember that NASA is the greatest space agency that ever existed so NASA will always have more to offer other Space Agency's in joint missions. NASA has more to give them when compared to the amount that they ( other space groups ) offer the USA/NASA !
Sadly NASA isn't a divine body nor can it do magic, it can't go everywhere and do everything because NASA is governed by the laws of rocketry physics as well as hampered by politics and economics. People would like NASA to go everywhere - build a new Shuttle, do an asteroid mission, fix Hubble, go to Saturn, send robots to Mars, fix the ISS, go to Europa, make a new base on Mars....
So in order to real its goals NASA must sometimes do joint co-operative missions.
Even though NASA is the greatest agency to ever exist, its does have limitations and we also have budget trouble - there are however a number of Space agency's that do have something great to offer NASA.
Russia is good because the Soviets were NASAs greatest rival. Russia have a huge experience with Venus, Salyut space station, rovers on the Moon, have done biospheres, long duration studies lived in space for double the time that NASA have, built Energia.
Europe even without space has a strong tradition of industry with great products like eurofighter, sports-cars and airbus. Today Europeans are studying exo-planets, testing ion-drives to the Moon, sending off spacecraft like Rosetta and ESA are launching many space telescopes. Japan and Canada also have something to offer, a large knowledge of robotics and Earth-satellite observation, the Japanese did have some of the greatest wonders of technology but today the Japanese industry is in decline and the economy has become stagnant since their economic bubble burst. China will soon surpass Japan in industry, economics and technology, they are building multiple launch pads, are buying companies like Rover and IBM, have a manned spacecraft it is only a matter of time before the Chinese have totally over-taken the Japanese in every area. China might soon have some skill, experience and technology to offer NASA , however political relations with China are mixed and I suspect they will be a rival in Space.
To ally with India could be totally worthless, I know Bush has some great visionary plans about outsourcing NASA to India but I think it is dumb to give them our technology because there is little to be gained in return. India is full of self importance and they only care about their own, they were on the wrong side during the cold war buying up Soviet missiles and MIGs so they could destroy the American made planes. I know people like the late JFK, Webb and Griffin would be very unhappy about outsouring space exploration to another country. Bush however has great plans for outsourcing and giving away technology went over to India and said there would be no curbs on outsourcing tech or aerospace designs from the U.S The only thing India has to offer is a cheap rocket launch so if we start outscouring to these guys we may aswell start outsourcing exploration to everyone else with a launch-pad, sounding-rocket or ballistic missile such as Iran, South Africa, Pakistan, Malaysia, Brazil, and North-Korea.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Do I smell Hate Burn????
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India is just as selfish, insular and greedy as many other nations, probably 100 times worse than the self important and Franco-centrics, Francophiles or French-Fry politicans. India has been against many of the United States ally's, they only care about their own skin and India was something of a foe during the Cold-War.
Remember that NASA is the greatest space agency that ever existed so NASA will always have more to offer other Space Agency's in joint missions. NASA has more to give them when compared to the amount that they ( other space groups ) offer the USA/NASA !
Sadly NASA isn't a divine body nor can it do magic, it can't go everywhere and do everything because NASA is governed by the laws of rocketry physics as well as hampered by politics and economics. People would like NASA to go everywhere - build a new Shuttle, do an asteroid mission, fix Hubble, go to Saturn, send robots to Mars, fix the ISS, go to Europa, make a new base on Mars....
So in order to real its goals NASA must sometimes do joint co-operative missions.
Even though NASA is the greatest agency to ever exist, its does have limitations and we also have budget trouble - there are however a number of Space agency's that do have something great to offer NASA.
Russia is good because the Soviets were NASAs greatest rival. Russia have a huge experience with Venus, Salyut space station, rovers on the Moon, have done biospheres, long duration studies lived in space for double the time that NASA have, built Energia.
Europe even without space has a strong tradition of industry with great products like eurofighter, sports-cars and airbus. Today Europeans are studying exo-planets, testing ion-drives to the Moon, sending off spacecraft like Rosetta and ESA are launching many space telescopes. Japan and Canada also have something to offer, a large knowledge of robotics and Earth-satellite observation, the Japanese did have some of the greatest wonders of technology but today the Japanese industry is in decline and the economy has become stagnant since their economic bubble burst. China will soon surpass Japan in industry, economics and technology, they are building multiple launch pads, are buying companies like Rover and IBM, have a manned spacecraft it is only a matter of time before the Chinese have totally over-taken the Japanese in every area. China might soon have some skill, experience and technology to offer NASA , however political relations with China are mixed and I suspect they will be a rival in Space.
To ally with India could be totally worthless, I know Bush has some great visionary plans about outsourcing NASA to India but I think it is dumb to give them our technology because there is little to be gained in return. India is full of self importance and they only care about their own, they were on the wrong side during the cold war buying up Soviet missiles and MIGs so they could destroy the American made planes. I know people like the late JFK, Webb and Griffin would be very unhappy about outsouring space exploration to another country. Bush however has great plans for outsourcing and giving away technology went over to India and said there would be no curbs on outsourcing tech or aerospace designs from the U.S The only thing India has to offer is a cheap rocket launch so if we start outscouring to these guys we may aswell start outsourcing exploration to everyone else with a launch-pad, sounding-rocket or ballistic missile such as Iran, South Africa, Pakistan, Malaysia, Brazil, and North-Korea.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->