Post 236:
Communist and cheerleader Ashok Mitra writes in Telegraph, making reference to Hindus and 'Hindu fundamentalism':
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>India is currently a battlefield where religious fundamentalists are making every attempt to capture positions of vantage so that they could drag the country back to the Dark Ages.</b> Those confronting them in different parts of the country and in different spheres used to refer to the Left Front regime in West Bengal as the guardian angel, protecting the ramparts of secularism founded on the bedrock of rationality.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Since communists are picking on Rahul Dravid and Bhumi pooja and what not, I feel I am entitled to point out how conditioned and ignorant the communist/psecular 'intelligentsia' in India is.
This komrade is a perfect example of the lack of education and absence of (true) rationality amongst the 'secular' mob in our country. They study only Marxism or selective, embellished communist history and/or know only the christian framework and then think they know it all. Look how he uses two concepts in one small paragraph that are entirely christian: the irrelevant 'guardian angel' and more importantly 'dragging country X <i>back</i> to the <i>Dark Ages</i>'.
Communists just don't get that if they can't say something sensible they should not open their claptraps. Choke Miter just made a fool of himself and those he's representing. They need to learn Indian history instead of hearing second-hand stories of western history and foolishly extrapolating them into India.
The <i>Dark Ages</i> is a term used for a specific time-frame in a specific geographic locality: Europe
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->In history we divide time into three parts, Ancient Times, the Middle Ages, and Modern Times; and we consider the Middle Ages (as we ought to say) a period of dark and turbulent semi-barbarism lying between two phases of civilization, ancient paganism and modern paganism.
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<b>let us be quite clear</b> what we mean by the Middle Ages. Roughly we mean from about 500 A.D. when paganism and the Roman Empire were extinct, to about 1500 or 1600 A.D. <b>The first half of this period, say from about 500 to 1100, we call the Dark Ages.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>The Church is deeply and terribly responsible for the Dark Ages</b>, for the suspension of the evolution of civilization for a thousand years. Today there would be -- as will be the condition in a few centuries -- no war, little or no poverty, no ignorance, no crime, and infinitely more happiness, if the Christian church had been a civilizing force. ...
<i>-- The Story Of Religious Controversy, by Joseph McCabe, historian and former Franciscan monk</i><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> ( http://freetruth.50webs.org/A2b.htm )
Both the above quotes are from historian McCabe and unlike Choking Miter, McCabe knows what he is talking about.
"The first half of this period, say from about 500 to 1100, we call the Dark Ages."
and "The Church is deeply and terribly responsible for the Dark Ages" -> this gives both the specific time and place for the Dark Ages. That is, in 500-1100 ce and location is where the Church ruled: meaning Europe (and Russia).
Now, christianity is the religion that caused the Dark Ages and it is therefore the only religion that can drag a country into the Dark Ages. In specific, it can only drag a country <i>back</i> into the Dark Ages if the country is European.
The only christian rule we had in India was under the colonial terrorists from Europe. And no 'Hindoo fundamentalist' wants India to go back to <i>that</i>.
Now, if Choking-On-His-Miter meant to write 'dark ages' and not the Dark Ages (no indication that he did, he referred to 'back to the Dark Ages', but I'll give him some leeway), then we will see the following situation. There was a very dark age in India: under Islam when Dharmic people where tormented and genocided; there was another very dark age: of christian colonial imperialism in India when Hindu people were also tormented and genocided. In both cases, the rational temperament of our Dharmic religions suffered under the irrational cloud of the evil christoislamic ideologies.
In short: the religious fundamentalists in both the dark ages that India experienced were.... christoislamics and NOT Hindus.
To continue using the 'dark age' re-interpretation of Where's-My-Miter's caterwaul, we will turn to considering communism. When's he going to mention the dark ages the world has experienced under his ideology? Under Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol-Pot, Kim Jong-Il. Is Choke-on-your-Miter wanting his chosen political party (and ideology) to take India into the dark ages of brainwashing, torment and genocide and confused 'rationality'? (Their understanding and usage of rationality is communist doublespeak for 'carefully programmed ignorance')
In conclusion, Death-by-Choking-On-Miter should not ever have been promoted to writing from his previous position as one of the many Maoist militant executionists. His overseers should have made him stick to his original thuggery activities that communists always put their foot soldiers to: he should have been kept to his former terrorist militant ways of driving Indians out of their villages with maoist rebel guns pointed at them, all whilst promising 'egalitarianism' and 'rights' (doublespeak again) of the proletariat.
Communist and cheerleader Ashok Mitra writes in Telegraph, making reference to Hindus and 'Hindu fundamentalism':
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>India is currently a battlefield where religious fundamentalists are making every attempt to capture positions of vantage so that they could drag the country back to the Dark Ages.</b> Those confronting them in different parts of the country and in different spheres used to refer to the Left Front regime in West Bengal as the guardian angel, protecting the ramparts of secularism founded on the bedrock of rationality.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Since communists are picking on Rahul Dravid and Bhumi pooja and what not, I feel I am entitled to point out how conditioned and ignorant the communist/psecular 'intelligentsia' in India is.
This komrade is a perfect example of the lack of education and absence of (true) rationality amongst the 'secular' mob in our country. They study only Marxism or selective, embellished communist history and/or know only the christian framework and then think they know it all. Look how he uses two concepts in one small paragraph that are entirely christian: the irrelevant 'guardian angel' and more importantly 'dragging country X <i>back</i> to the <i>Dark Ages</i>'.
Communists just don't get that if they can't say something sensible they should not open their claptraps. Choke Miter just made a fool of himself and those he's representing. They need to learn Indian history instead of hearing second-hand stories of western history and foolishly extrapolating them into India.
The <i>Dark Ages</i> is a term used for a specific time-frame in a specific geographic locality: Europe
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->In history we divide time into three parts, Ancient Times, the Middle Ages, and Modern Times; and we consider the Middle Ages (as we ought to say) a period of dark and turbulent semi-barbarism lying between two phases of civilization, ancient paganism and modern paganism.
...
<b>let us be quite clear</b> what we mean by the Middle Ages. Roughly we mean from about 500 A.D. when paganism and the Roman Empire were extinct, to about 1500 or 1600 A.D. <b>The first half of this period, say from about 500 to 1100, we call the Dark Ages.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>The Church is deeply and terribly responsible for the Dark Ages</b>, for the suspension of the evolution of civilization for a thousand years. Today there would be -- as will be the condition in a few centuries -- no war, little or no poverty, no ignorance, no crime, and infinitely more happiness, if the Christian church had been a civilizing force. ...
<i>-- The Story Of Religious Controversy, by Joseph McCabe, historian and former Franciscan monk</i><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> ( http://freetruth.50webs.org/A2b.htm )
Both the above quotes are from historian McCabe and unlike Choking Miter, McCabe knows what he is talking about.
"The first half of this period, say from about 500 to 1100, we call the Dark Ages."
and "The Church is deeply and terribly responsible for the Dark Ages" -> this gives both the specific time and place for the Dark Ages. That is, in 500-1100 ce and location is where the Church ruled: meaning Europe (and Russia).
Now, christianity is the religion that caused the Dark Ages and it is therefore the only religion that can drag a country into the Dark Ages. In specific, it can only drag a country <i>back</i> into the Dark Ages if the country is European.
The only christian rule we had in India was under the colonial terrorists from Europe. And no 'Hindoo fundamentalist' wants India to go back to <i>that</i>.
Now, if Choking-On-His-Miter meant to write 'dark ages' and not the Dark Ages (no indication that he did, he referred to 'back to the Dark Ages', but I'll give him some leeway), then we will see the following situation. There was a very dark age in India: under Islam when Dharmic people where tormented and genocided; there was another very dark age: of christian colonial imperialism in India when Hindu people were also tormented and genocided. In both cases, the rational temperament of our Dharmic religions suffered under the irrational cloud of the evil christoislamic ideologies.
In short: the religious fundamentalists in both the dark ages that India experienced were.... christoislamics and NOT Hindus.
To continue using the 'dark age' re-interpretation of Where's-My-Miter's caterwaul, we will turn to considering communism. When's he going to mention the dark ages the world has experienced under his ideology? Under Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol-Pot, Kim Jong-Il. Is Choke-on-your-Miter wanting his chosen political party (and ideology) to take India into the dark ages of brainwashing, torment and genocide and confused 'rationality'? (Their understanding and usage of rationality is communist doublespeak for 'carefully programmed ignorance')
In conclusion, Death-by-Choking-On-Miter should not ever have been promoted to writing from his previous position as one of the many Maoist militant executionists. His overseers should have made him stick to his original thuggery activities that communists always put their foot soldiers to: he should have been kept to his former terrorist militant ways of driving Indians out of their villages with maoist rebel guns pointed at them, all whilst promising 'egalitarianism' and 'rights' (doublespeak again) of the proletariat.