Post 173:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Let Indian Christos have European names. pagan or otherwise. But they should not brandish 'hindu' names and add to the confusion !<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->I agree - they ought to stick to foreign names.
If someone's a christian, they ought to have a christian name instead of stealing Hindu ones in order to pretend they have a 'culture'. Hindu names are not part of some recently invented secular 'Indian' 'culture'. They are names derived from the millennia of Hindu civilisation and belong to Hindus, Jains and Buddhists(?)
In post 172, was just pointing out that many of the names Indian christos think are christian and which are being translated into Hindi and put in a list as 'Hindi christian names' are not even christian in the first place. Martin is my favourite though. (Though if I were a christo, I would be seriously embarassed by that faux-pas. But maybe it went over their head...)
There's several reasons that the christian church in India is working on getting the christo population to adopt Hindu names, besides the one Bharatvarsh highlighted in post 174. It's not only to keep their actual population numbers from becoming transparent (1).
(2) Working in politics, media or elsewhere, they can villify the actual Hindu population all the while their gullible Hindu readership or following imagines these frauds are Hindu and so doesn't question their motivations.
Not only christians do this, but communists and other anti-Hindus as well. And it has certainly helped that Suzanne (?) Arundhati Roy so far.
(3) Christians with Hindu names can more easily get Hindu spouses and make sure that even if they can't convert their spouse, they will baptise their children as christian. This ensures reduction in potential increase in Hindu population as well as increase in christian population. And it is one of the plans the Indian church has. (Not only the <i>Indian</i> church, but also churches among many other unconverted peoples in the world.)
One of the tailors my mother visits for her blouse pieces when in Chennai is a Hindu man. He got married to a woman he thought was Hindu, on account of her name and clothing (pottu, saree). He explained to my mother that he was very saddened when his wife insulted his pictures of Hindu Gods and how she and her brother told him to get rid of them. Later they kept asking him, then bothering him to convert. Since he thought it would ensure peace in the family and prevent the divorce she was threatening with if he didn't convert, he converted to the terrorist religion. He is now a 'christian' at home and a Hindu in his heart. My mother said he was rather depressed about it, but hopes that once his wife's brother is married and moves away, he might be able to convince his wife to let him bring his images back and not be so rude about his beliefs. Sadly, I don't think he has any luck. He will never get a divorce, because he is one of the vast number of good, simple, Hindu, traditional people.
Many Hindus have recognised that Indian muslims (men) have an active plan to marry Hindu women. For the same reason: reduction of kafirs, increase of faithful in the country.
But Hindus have not realised that the same is on in christianity, but with both christian women and men targetting Hindus (that is, the targets are both Hindu men and women). It is sleepwalking into disaster on our part to ignore the other terrorist religion merely because it is not openly threatening with Jihad every other day. Christianity has never made it a secret that it wants to convert India. And this is but another avenue the church is treading in its multi-pronged attack strategy.
India as an islamoterrorist or christoterrorist nation - neither option is appealing, as they are both the same anyway. Want to become TSP's clone as Mughalistan or a Nagaland-for-christ clone as an India-for-christ? How tempting, how about we pass?
See for instance the post about an Indian army officer's matrimonial advert for one of his daughters, posted here
http://www.india-forum.com/forums/index.ph...indpost&p=62473
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The following is a matrimonial ad, on one of those online websites:
<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I am Major B. XXXXX, father of YYYY, our 2nd daughter. She is
working in Hyderabad.Salary 20K. I am a Hindu (Goud) and my wife is a
Christian. I am a retired Army Officer and working as Faulty in an
Engineering College at Hyderabad. Eldest is our son,PGDCA, Manager in an IT
Firm at Bangalore. Our daughter in law is MBA, a Christian, working in an
IT Firm at Hyderabad. First Daughter,M Sc(Bio Tech), married to a Hindu,
Software Engineer in Bangalore. My wife is looking after my family.We are
interested in a Working Hindu Boy (except SC/ST or Brahmin), preferably an
engineer or PG, settled or want to settle in Hyderabad. He must have a good
family back ground, religious tolerance and should not expect any
dowry. Interested persons may contact me<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Even well-informed persons on this forum think the christian wife is innocent in all of this and only noticed the low sentiments of the 'Hindu (Goud)' husband in banning SC/ST/Brahmin applications. His restrictions are actually fortunate for the Hindus concerned.
Because, why is he seeking a Hindu at all? His daughter-in-law is a Christian, so what is his son? His other daughter is married to a Hindu (what is she??? if not a christian also), and what about the daughter for whom they are seeking a gullible Hindu suitor? What is she, it doesn't say.
But I can tell you with a high chance of being right that this family could well be similar to many other cases of Hindu men married to christian women in India. The children are all christian. Just like that tv personality Malaika Arora and her sister Amrita Arora, who are both catholic because they have a catholic mother and a Hindu father. (Thankfully Malaika married most suitably: a muslim. Hopefully her sister would make the same appropriate choice).
I think the cases are similar concerning the parentage of the catholic Lara Dutta, Kim Sharma and many others. At least these last two have western first names. Malaika and Amrita don't even have that. (Name theft again.)
In islamic countries of course, the church - even the pope, advises his flock to avoid marrying muslims. But it's open season on Hindus.
Hindu men make good targets, simply because of the fact that they don't see why ('all religions being equal') it should matter what religion the children are raised in. It does matter, because christianity like islam is a terrorist religion. If christian spouses of Hindus were really 'secular', why don't they raise their children in both religions (I wouldn't, but then I wouldn't marry a christoislamic person for any reason at all)?
Reminds me of the advice given in past centuries to European men wishing to marry someone: 'Always agree with the (girl's) dad on politics and the mum on religion'. Women were often even more into their religion, christianity, in the west. So you get cases like historian and ex-christian Joseph McCabe, raised Catholic by his Irish Catholic mum. His dad was English and Anglican (Protestant). Joseph McCabe wrote how he remembered himself as a child, threatening the anglican children at his school with hell-fire for their heresy. Funny stuff that.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Let Indian Christos have European names. pagan or otherwise. But they should not brandish 'hindu' names and add to the confusion !<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->I agree - they ought to stick to foreign names.
If someone's a christian, they ought to have a christian name instead of stealing Hindu ones in order to pretend they have a 'culture'. Hindu names are not part of some recently invented secular 'Indian' 'culture'. They are names derived from the millennia of Hindu civilisation and belong to Hindus, Jains and Buddhists(?)
In post 172, was just pointing out that many of the names Indian christos think are christian and which are being translated into Hindi and put in a list as 'Hindi christian names' are not even christian in the first place. Martin is my favourite though. (Though if I were a christo, I would be seriously embarassed by that faux-pas. But maybe it went over their head...)
There's several reasons that the christian church in India is working on getting the christo population to adopt Hindu names, besides the one Bharatvarsh highlighted in post 174. It's not only to keep their actual population numbers from becoming transparent (1).
(2) Working in politics, media or elsewhere, they can villify the actual Hindu population all the while their gullible Hindu readership or following imagines these frauds are Hindu and so doesn't question their motivations.
Not only christians do this, but communists and other anti-Hindus as well. And it has certainly helped that Suzanne (?) Arundhati Roy so far.
(3) Christians with Hindu names can more easily get Hindu spouses and make sure that even if they can't convert their spouse, they will baptise their children as christian. This ensures reduction in potential increase in Hindu population as well as increase in christian population. And it is one of the plans the Indian church has. (Not only the <i>Indian</i> church, but also churches among many other unconverted peoples in the world.)
One of the tailors my mother visits for her blouse pieces when in Chennai is a Hindu man. He got married to a woman he thought was Hindu, on account of her name and clothing (pottu, saree). He explained to my mother that he was very saddened when his wife insulted his pictures of Hindu Gods and how she and her brother told him to get rid of them. Later they kept asking him, then bothering him to convert. Since he thought it would ensure peace in the family and prevent the divorce she was threatening with if he didn't convert, he converted to the terrorist religion. He is now a 'christian' at home and a Hindu in his heart. My mother said he was rather depressed about it, but hopes that once his wife's brother is married and moves away, he might be able to convince his wife to let him bring his images back and not be so rude about his beliefs. Sadly, I don't think he has any luck. He will never get a divorce, because he is one of the vast number of good, simple, Hindu, traditional people.
Many Hindus have recognised that Indian muslims (men) have an active plan to marry Hindu women. For the same reason: reduction of kafirs, increase of faithful in the country.
But Hindus have not realised that the same is on in christianity, but with both christian women and men targetting Hindus (that is, the targets are both Hindu men and women). It is sleepwalking into disaster on our part to ignore the other terrorist religion merely because it is not openly threatening with Jihad every other day. Christianity has never made it a secret that it wants to convert India. And this is but another avenue the church is treading in its multi-pronged attack strategy.
India as an islamoterrorist or christoterrorist nation - neither option is appealing, as they are both the same anyway. Want to become TSP's clone as Mughalistan or a Nagaland-for-christ clone as an India-for-christ? How tempting, how about we pass?
See for instance the post about an Indian army officer's matrimonial advert for one of his daughters, posted here
http://www.india-forum.com/forums/index.ph...indpost&p=62473
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The following is a matrimonial ad, on one of those online websites:
<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I am Major B. XXXXX, father of YYYY, our 2nd daughter. She is
working in Hyderabad.Salary 20K. I am a Hindu (Goud) and my wife is a
Christian. I am a retired Army Officer and working as Faulty in an
Engineering College at Hyderabad. Eldest is our son,PGDCA, Manager in an IT
Firm at Bangalore. Our daughter in law is MBA, a Christian, working in an
IT Firm at Hyderabad. First Daughter,M Sc(Bio Tech), married to a Hindu,
Software Engineer in Bangalore. My wife is looking after my family.We are
interested in a Working Hindu Boy (except SC/ST or Brahmin), preferably an
engineer or PG, settled or want to settle in Hyderabad. He must have a good
family back ground, religious tolerance and should not expect any
dowry. Interested persons may contact me<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Even well-informed persons on this forum think the christian wife is innocent in all of this and only noticed the low sentiments of the 'Hindu (Goud)' husband in banning SC/ST/Brahmin applications. His restrictions are actually fortunate for the Hindus concerned.
Because, why is he seeking a Hindu at all? His daughter-in-law is a Christian, so what is his son? His other daughter is married to a Hindu (what is she??? if not a christian also), and what about the daughter for whom they are seeking a gullible Hindu suitor? What is she, it doesn't say.
But I can tell you with a high chance of being right that this family could well be similar to many other cases of Hindu men married to christian women in India. The children are all christian. Just like that tv personality Malaika Arora and her sister Amrita Arora, who are both catholic because they have a catholic mother and a Hindu father. (Thankfully Malaika married most suitably: a muslim. Hopefully her sister would make the same appropriate choice).
I think the cases are similar concerning the parentage of the catholic Lara Dutta, Kim Sharma and many others. At least these last two have western first names. Malaika and Amrita don't even have that. (Name theft again.)
In islamic countries of course, the church - even the pope, advises his flock to avoid marrying muslims. But it's open season on Hindus.
Hindu men make good targets, simply because of the fact that they don't see why ('all religions being equal') it should matter what religion the children are raised in. It does matter, because christianity like islam is a terrorist religion. If christian spouses of Hindus were really 'secular', why don't they raise their children in both religions (I wouldn't, but then I wouldn't marry a christoislamic person for any reason at all)?
Reminds me of the advice given in past centuries to European men wishing to marry someone: 'Always agree with the (girl's) dad on politics and the mum on religion'. Women were often even more into their religion, christianity, in the west. So you get cases like historian and ex-christian Joseph McCabe, raised Catholic by his Irish Catholic mum. His dad was English and Anglican (Protestant). Joseph McCabe wrote how he remembered himself as a child, threatening the anglican children at his school with hell-fire for their heresy. Funny stuff that.