Bharatvarsh - post 171,
many of the original names you mentioned are all pagan names of Europe.
For instance Augustina, Apollonius, Justin, Margaret and many others listed are all prechristian Roman pagan names (also variations on Margaret: Marga, Margot, Margo... and Margaret is <i>also</i> Persian, Zoroastrian). They had meaning in the ancient religion of Rome, even though today they have been reduced to 'just' the Latin meaning, like the Indian christos are trying to do with Hindu names by saying they are 'merely' Hindi.
Other Roman names (not christian): Anthony, Emily which are pagan Roman family names - house of Anthony (Antoninus), house of Emily (Emilius). Also Diana (Goddess) and a million others. You won't believe how many Indian christos I've met who have names like Justin and even Anthony.
Too many Greek names are also pagan: the major Indian christo errors are
- Sophia (neo-platonic ideal Sophia, later Gnostic Goddess of wisdom, taken into gnostic christianity and then banned in mainstream christianity). From Sophia comes Russian 'Sonya'.
- Helen, Helena which means Greek by ethnicity. Helen of Sparta.
- Dion, from Greek God Dionysus.
- Forgot to add Alexander ('defender of mankind'), Alexandra and derivates; and Philip (name of the father of Alexander III/the Great).
These and a zillion other names were banned in Greece for a long time precisely because of their pagan nature. Indian christos parade around with such names thinking they're 'European hence christian' and looking like fools in the process.
Allowed Greek names: Stephen, Lawrence - these are 'acceptable' to a certain extent for christians, as they are not just old Greek words but refer to that leafy thing on non-existent jeebus' head.
The above post mentioned Adelbert, which is an old Germanic name. Adelheid (Heidi), and a great many others are all old German names.
Frank means French (Francois). An Indian with this name makes no sense at all.
Richard, Robert, Edward, Edgar, Edmund, Emma, and a zillion other names are all Old-English (Anglo-Saxon) and have nothing to do with christianity either. But there are Indian christos with these names.
Fiona, Keira, Keith, bla bla bla are all Irish pagan names. Celtic.
There was a christo girl from Kerala with the name Fiona who was always ranting against Hinduism. I asked her what is she doing with a sacred Celtic name meaning "white, fair" (and related to the Celtic Goddess). She had no clue until I told her. I must give her some credit, within a month she had her name changed to a proper biblical one. <!--emo&
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It's one thing for Italians, Greeks, Germans, English or Irish to have these names - the Church at various times allowed them. Actually, the Church couldn't always stop them, so that's why they've been allowed.
But it's another for ignorant Indian christos to think the names have something to do with christianity.
I've been told that Catherine has to do with the Catharan sect of gnostic christianity which was genocided by the catholic church and whose ideas are not accepted by the orthodox or protestant churches either. Hence a christian with that name makes little sense either, unless they are okay with a heretic name?
Amos, Rebecca, David are Jewish names.
According to early christians (orthodox, roman catholics) and later christian reformers (protestants), only biblical names are allowed amongst christians - which are all stolen from Judaism, of course, but then, so is the Old Testament, so what can you do.
That meant that only OT and NT names are allowed in christianity. This means Paulus, Petrus, Marcus ('Mark') and the like which are all pagan Roman names <i>were</i> accepted because they appear in the NT.
But not even names of Roman emperors who converted to christianity were allowed because their names are pagan (like Justin from Justinian). And among the Protestants who did not care for saints, names of saints if pagan were not allowed either; obviously the catholic church had no choice here but to let it go.
Pope Benedict has the name of God Apollo now: Apollo Benedictus (Apollo the Good, but it was a <i>name</i> only when referring to Apollo).
For example, 4th century christoterrorist st john Chrysostom whined on about how only biblical names were allowed for christians, alongside his telling his monks to destroy the remnants of Greek culture and civilisation. (Meanwhile, Chrysostom is itself a pagan Greco-Roman name...)
Then in the christian paradise/theocratic Geneva under Calvin (protestant reformer in 16th century or so), he enforced the traditional christian view again: only christian (biblical) names allowed for all the people and children.
http://www.greatlie.com/en/articles.cfm?...tail&id=21
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->JOHN CHRYSOSTOM forbids use of Greek names
«None must call his children the (Greek) ancestors' names, be that of their father, their mother, their grandfather or their great grandfather, but instead you must use those of the righteous (of the Old Testament)».
John Chrysostom De inani gloria et de educandis liberis (690) 641.65 <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->http://dim.com/~randl/calvin.htm "Calvin - 16th Century Hitler/McCarthy"
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Calvinist Geneva, the "Protestant Rome," was a police state.
Calvin was a strict literalist, and believed that Biblical scripture was the absolute authority.
[...]
The naming of children was under strict church control. Only Biblical names were allowed. Feasting was prohibited for Christmas and Easter.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->(Christmas and Easter were banned because all Reformers and protestants knew they were pagan, just like the European names were.)
So these rules account for the names allowed for Orthodox, Roman Catholic and Protestant christians. Calvin and st john Chrysostom know more about christianity and the bible than the newly-made ignorant zombies in India. So any Indian christos wanting to be proper christians would do well to mark what names are allowed for them.
Mary, Mariam, Miriam, Elizabeth, Elijah, David, Joseph, Jesus, Joshua, Rebecca, Jessica (?), Sarah, Susan/Suzanne, ..., are all okay for christians. To be fair, not a few of these are actually pagan Middle-Eastern names. Hence Suzanne and Miriam are also used by muslim Arabians, since it's an ancient Semitic name as well, and muslims are as confused as christians.
One day, the Indian church will rescind its decision to appropriate Hindu names - but only after it has converted a sufficient part of India. Until then, pagan names are temporarily okay. After that: a Calvinistic India will tell all the christo zombies still masquerading with Hindu names to change their names or else.
Christos are just thieves. Name theft is petty theft isn't it? <i>Petty</i> thieves.
EDIT:
post 171:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Martin meaning dedicated to Mars<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Mars is the Roman equivalent of Greek God Ares, right? (And March/Mart 3rd month of Roman calendar devoted to the God of War, Mars). Again, Martin is Roman pagan. What has it do with christianity and why are they translating this into its Hindu equivalent. Umm are christos always this ... clever?
many of the original names you mentioned are all pagan names of Europe.
For instance Augustina, Apollonius, Justin, Margaret and many others listed are all prechristian Roman pagan names (also variations on Margaret: Marga, Margot, Margo... and Margaret is <i>also</i> Persian, Zoroastrian). They had meaning in the ancient religion of Rome, even though today they have been reduced to 'just' the Latin meaning, like the Indian christos are trying to do with Hindu names by saying they are 'merely' Hindi.
Other Roman names (not christian): Anthony, Emily which are pagan Roman family names - house of Anthony (Antoninus), house of Emily (Emilius). Also Diana (Goddess) and a million others. You won't believe how many Indian christos I've met who have names like Justin and even Anthony.
Too many Greek names are also pagan: the major Indian christo errors are
- Sophia (neo-platonic ideal Sophia, later Gnostic Goddess of wisdom, taken into gnostic christianity and then banned in mainstream christianity). From Sophia comes Russian 'Sonya'.
- Helen, Helena which means Greek by ethnicity. Helen of Sparta.
- Dion, from Greek God Dionysus.
- Forgot to add Alexander ('defender of mankind'), Alexandra and derivates; and Philip (name of the father of Alexander III/the Great).
These and a zillion other names were banned in Greece for a long time precisely because of their pagan nature. Indian christos parade around with such names thinking they're 'European hence christian' and looking like fools in the process.
Allowed Greek names: Stephen, Lawrence - these are 'acceptable' to a certain extent for christians, as they are not just old Greek words but refer to that leafy thing on non-existent jeebus' head.
The above post mentioned Adelbert, which is an old Germanic name. Adelheid (Heidi), and a great many others are all old German names.
Frank means French (Francois). An Indian with this name makes no sense at all.
Richard, Robert, Edward, Edgar, Edmund, Emma, and a zillion other names are all Old-English (Anglo-Saxon) and have nothing to do with christianity either. But there are Indian christos with these names.
Fiona, Keira, Keith, bla bla bla are all Irish pagan names. Celtic.
There was a christo girl from Kerala with the name Fiona who was always ranting against Hinduism. I asked her what is she doing with a sacred Celtic name meaning "white, fair" (and related to the Celtic Goddess). She had no clue until I told her. I must give her some credit, within a month she had her name changed to a proper biblical one. <!--emo&
--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> It's one thing for Italians, Greeks, Germans, English or Irish to have these names - the Church at various times allowed them. Actually, the Church couldn't always stop them, so that's why they've been allowed.
But it's another for ignorant Indian christos to think the names have something to do with christianity.
I've been told that Catherine has to do with the Catharan sect of gnostic christianity which was genocided by the catholic church and whose ideas are not accepted by the orthodox or protestant churches either. Hence a christian with that name makes little sense either, unless they are okay with a heretic name?
Amos, Rebecca, David are Jewish names.
According to early christians (orthodox, roman catholics) and later christian reformers (protestants), only biblical names are allowed amongst christians - which are all stolen from Judaism, of course, but then, so is the Old Testament, so what can you do.
That meant that only OT and NT names are allowed in christianity. This means Paulus, Petrus, Marcus ('Mark') and the like which are all pagan Roman names <i>were</i> accepted because they appear in the NT.
But not even names of Roman emperors who converted to christianity were allowed because their names are pagan (like Justin from Justinian). And among the Protestants who did not care for saints, names of saints if pagan were not allowed either; obviously the catholic church had no choice here but to let it go.
Pope Benedict has the name of God Apollo now: Apollo Benedictus (Apollo the Good, but it was a <i>name</i> only when referring to Apollo).
For example, 4th century christoterrorist st john Chrysostom whined on about how only biblical names were allowed for christians, alongside his telling his monks to destroy the remnants of Greek culture and civilisation. (Meanwhile, Chrysostom is itself a pagan Greco-Roman name...)
Then in the christian paradise/theocratic Geneva under Calvin (protestant reformer in 16th century or so), he enforced the traditional christian view again: only christian (biblical) names allowed for all the people and children.
http://www.greatlie.com/en/articles.cfm?...tail&id=21
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->JOHN CHRYSOSTOM forbids use of Greek names
«None must call his children the (Greek) ancestors' names, be that of their father, their mother, their grandfather or their great grandfather, but instead you must use those of the righteous (of the Old Testament)».
John Chrysostom De inani gloria et de educandis liberis (690) 641.65 <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->http://dim.com/~randl/calvin.htm "Calvin - 16th Century Hitler/McCarthy"
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Calvinist Geneva, the "Protestant Rome," was a police state.
Calvin was a strict literalist, and believed that Biblical scripture was the absolute authority.
[...]
The naming of children was under strict church control. Only Biblical names were allowed. Feasting was prohibited for Christmas and Easter.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->(Christmas and Easter were banned because all Reformers and protestants knew they were pagan, just like the European names were.)
So these rules account for the names allowed for Orthodox, Roman Catholic and Protestant christians. Calvin and st john Chrysostom know more about christianity and the bible than the newly-made ignorant zombies in India. So any Indian christos wanting to be proper christians would do well to mark what names are allowed for them.
Mary, Mariam, Miriam, Elizabeth, Elijah, David, Joseph, Jesus, Joshua, Rebecca, Jessica (?), Sarah, Susan/Suzanne, ..., are all okay for christians. To be fair, not a few of these are actually pagan Middle-Eastern names. Hence Suzanne and Miriam are also used by muslim Arabians, since it's an ancient Semitic name as well, and muslims are as confused as christians.
One day, the Indian church will rescind its decision to appropriate Hindu names - but only after it has converted a sufficient part of India. Until then, pagan names are temporarily okay. After that: a Calvinistic India will tell all the christo zombies still masquerading with Hindu names to change their names or else.
Christos are just thieves. Name theft is petty theft isn't it? <i>Petty</i> thieves.
EDIT:
post 171:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Martin meaning dedicated to Mars<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Mars is the Roman equivalent of Greek God Ares, right? (And March/Mart 3rd month of Roman calendar devoted to the God of War, Mars). Again, Martin is Roman pagan. What has it do with christianity and why are they translating this into its Hindu equivalent. Umm are christos always this ... clever?