Sorry for interrupting this thread. Just had a few remarks and questions on the following and could keep it to myself no longer:
<!--QuoteBegin-k.ram+Nov 15 2006, 08:10 AM-->QUOTE(k.ram @ Nov 15 2006, 08:10 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Nov. 13, 2006, 7:45AM
<b>Pastor's suicide is seen as protest against Islam</b>
It is the latest event in a growing conflict between Christians and Muslims in Europe
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<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->A few weeks later, at one of the most important Lutheran landmarks, the Rev. Roland Weisselberg soaked himself in gasoline and set himself ablaze.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->According to their own rigid and unforgiving religion, this pastor is heading straight for their hell: suicide is punished by eternal damnation in that loving religion of christianity, after all. I've seen many sermon yawn-fests on TV (televangelism) about the hellish 'life' in store for people who commit suicide. Didn't the pastor know this?
Was he confused about which religion he actually adherred to? If not, then why did he mimick Buddhism, where protest against monumental injustice is carried out by Buddhist monks setting fire to themselves? For example, this was a regular occurrence in Buddhist Vietnam when it was under ruthless christian dictatorship .
And don't christos regularly take the 'moral' 'high-ground' when it comes to the act of Sati (where Hindu women and, at times, Hindu men voluntary immolate themselves) and denounce it as nothing less than the demonic nature of Hinduism?
Christos ought to stop copy-catting the loftier methods of the very religions they have insulted throughout christo history.
The only burning that christos are allowed to do - and which is acceptable in their religion - is that of other people, never of themselves. Auto Da Fe's are in fact prescribed, since the holy church prides itself on never shedding blood on itself (it must 'not taint itself with blood'): that's why the holy actions it undertook against individuals often involved burning the victims, like during the early inquisitions and the witch hunts.
Also, it has long been traditional christo belief that the pastor ought to be buried facing his buried flock, so that when all rise on the imaginary day of judgement he may lead them to the gates of heaven. That's why burial is very important in christianity: no burial means no resurrection, no way to get into heaven. Hence christos opposed and often still oppose cremation, which they consider a demonic heathen practise, because cremation means there's no body to rise on that all-important day in christianism. Since this pastor would be mostly ashes now and so does not have a body to be resurrected on The Day, aren't his parishioners worried about what they will do without a guide when they finally become christo zombies on that occasion (unless christo doctrine has changed again in recent times)? Their very eternity in heaven might well be at stake, so I think his flock ought to be more worried about that than any islamic take-over of their temporary world.
Christo theology and tradition is just too funny, I find (when I manage to ignore the constant christoislamic terrorism throughout its history, that is).
<!--QuoteBegin-k.ram+Nov 15 2006, 08:10 AM-->QUOTE(k.ram @ Nov 15 2006, 08:10 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Nov. 13, 2006, 7:45AM
<b>Pastor's suicide is seen as protest against Islam</b>
It is the latest event in a growing conflict between Christians and Muslims in Europe
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<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->A few weeks later, at one of the most important Lutheran landmarks, the Rev. Roland Weisselberg soaked himself in gasoline and set himself ablaze.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->According to their own rigid and unforgiving religion, this pastor is heading straight for their hell: suicide is punished by eternal damnation in that loving religion of christianity, after all. I've seen many sermon yawn-fests on TV (televangelism) about the hellish 'life' in store for people who commit suicide. Didn't the pastor know this?
Was he confused about which religion he actually adherred to? If not, then why did he mimick Buddhism, where protest against monumental injustice is carried out by Buddhist monks setting fire to themselves? For example, this was a regular occurrence in Buddhist Vietnam when it was under ruthless christian dictatorship .
And don't christos regularly take the 'moral' 'high-ground' when it comes to the act of Sati (where Hindu women and, at times, Hindu men voluntary immolate themselves) and denounce it as nothing less than the demonic nature of Hinduism?
Christos ought to stop copy-catting the loftier methods of the very religions they have insulted throughout christo history.
The only burning that christos are allowed to do - and which is acceptable in their religion - is that of other people, never of themselves. Auto Da Fe's are in fact prescribed, since the holy church prides itself on never shedding blood on itself (it must 'not taint itself with blood'): that's why the holy actions it undertook against individuals often involved burning the victims, like during the early inquisitions and the witch hunts.
Also, it has long been traditional christo belief that the pastor ought to be buried facing his buried flock, so that when all rise on the imaginary day of judgement he may lead them to the gates of heaven. That's why burial is very important in christianity: no burial means no resurrection, no way to get into heaven. Hence christos opposed and often still oppose cremation, which they consider a demonic heathen practise, because cremation means there's no body to rise on that all-important day in christianism. Since this pastor would be mostly ashes now and so does not have a body to be resurrected on The Day, aren't his parishioners worried about what they will do without a guide when they finally become christo zombies on that occasion (unless christo doctrine has changed again in recent times)? Their very eternity in heaven might well be at stake, so I think his flock ought to be more worried about that than any islamic take-over of their temporary world.
Christo theology and tradition is just too funny, I find (when I manage to ignore the constant christoislamic terrorism throughout its history, that is).