06-05-2007, 03:35 PM
82,000 year old jewellery found
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Archaeologists from Oxford have discovered what are thought to be the oldest examples of human decorations in the world.
The international team of archaeologists, led by Oxford University's Institute of Archaeology, have found shell beads believed to be 82,000 years old from a limestone cave in Morocco.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Posted by: John, -- on 6:05am today
One of the central problems with the proposition that fully modern humans evolved in Africa is that dramatically advanced modern behavior, including life-like realistic sculpture, appears suddenly on the west coast of Europe 40,000 years ago. No path leading to Europe. Nothing more advanced earlier in Africa. This was left conveniently unmentioned during the 1990s as Out-of-Africanists went on a desperate hunt for something earlier. They now have a rock with zigzag lines, and shells with holes, which they claim are 80,000 years old, and tell us this proves everything right. But if going from no zigzag lines to zigzag lines in Africa is a genetically-based evolutionary revolution -- what is going from zigzag lines to lifelike sculpture and the cave paintings of Lascaux in Western Europe and nowhere else on the planet? And by the way, what are "modern humans" doing making necklaces in Syro-Palestine 80,000 years ago if no modern humans left Africa until 60,000 years ago, or 50,000 years ago, as continuously repeated in the popular press?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->by: Trevor Watkins, North Queensferry, Fife on 10:23am today
Response to John, rather than the news story itself. The earliest appearance of Homo sapiens outside Africa is earlier than 100,000 years ago, and the evidence is human burials at two sites in northern Israel. That early appearance apparently leads nowhere. So it is not just the relatively late appearance of modern humans in western Europe that is problematical; the relatively early appearance of modern humans in Australia, and the very early appearance of H. sapiens in the Levant also point to the fact that we still have big black holes in our knowledge. Discoveries like that reported from eastern Morocco help to nibble away at that great black hole.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Archaeologists from Oxford have discovered what are thought to be the oldest examples of human decorations in the world.
The international team of archaeologists, led by Oxford University's Institute of Archaeology, have found shell beads believed to be 82,000 years old from a limestone cave in Morocco.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Comments on that article:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Posted by: John, -- on 6:05am today
One of the central problems with the proposition that fully modern humans evolved in Africa is that dramatically advanced modern behavior, including life-like realistic sculpture, appears suddenly on the west coast of Europe 40,000 years ago. No path leading to Europe. Nothing more advanced earlier in Africa. This was left conveniently unmentioned during the 1990s as Out-of-Africanists went on a desperate hunt for something earlier. They now have a rock with zigzag lines, and shells with holes, which they claim are 80,000 years old, and tell us this proves everything right. But if going from no zigzag lines to zigzag lines in Africa is a genetically-based evolutionary revolution -- what is going from zigzag lines to lifelike sculpture and the cave paintings of Lascaux in Western Europe and nowhere else on the planet? And by the way, what are "modern humans" doing making necklaces in Syro-Palestine 80,000 years ago if no modern humans left Africa until 60,000 years ago, or 50,000 years ago, as continuously repeated in the popular press?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->by: Trevor Watkins, North Queensferry, Fife on 10:23am today
Response to John, rather than the news story itself. The earliest appearance of Homo sapiens outside Africa is earlier than 100,000 years ago, and the evidence is human burials at two sites in northern Israel. That early appearance apparently leads nowhere. So it is not just the relatively late appearance of modern humans in western Europe that is problematical; the relatively early appearance of modern humans in Australia, and the very early appearance of H. sapiens in the Levant also point to the fact that we still have big black holes in our knowledge. Discoveries like that reported from eastern Morocco help to nibble away at that great black hole.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->