09-27-2006, 01:52 AM
Seems like the same stupid western propaganda, Buddhism was somehow an improvement over Hinduism's caste system. Japan, the world's most powerful Buddhist nation has a stratified society about 108 times worse than India's.
I like all Eastern religions, but this propaganda just makes me puke. Islam was supposedly a tolerant religion. The religion that had the 2nd largest slave trade in the world after the west, and even today where Black's are killed by Arab's in Sudan and elsewhere. In Pakistan they kill minority ethnicities like Baluch, and Karachi is virtually a caste and ethnic war zone.
Caste in reality is just the various ethnicities and tribes of India, how can anyone eliminate the basic tribal nature of humanity ? Hinduism does say that to acheive enlightenment, one cannot be materialistic and tribalistic. But, in the real world where the vast majority of people are not at that spiritual level, there will be tribalism, whether in a mild form like the clans (western propaganda translation: castes) of India or in harsher forms like violent ethnic clases in the Balkans or Shia/Sunni killings in Iraq or ethnic caste wars in Pakistan.
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Vivekananda was evidently mistaken here because Jesus (if he existed in the first place) was not killed by Jews as later day xtian propaganda makes him out to be.
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I like all Eastern religions, but this propaganda just makes me puke. Islam was supposedly a tolerant religion. The religion that had the 2nd largest slave trade in the world after the west, and even today where Black's are killed by Arab's in Sudan and elsewhere. In Pakistan they kill minority ethnicities like Baluch, and Karachi is virtually a caste and ethnic war zone.
Caste in reality is just the various ethnicities and tribes of India, how can anyone eliminate the basic tribal nature of humanity ? Hinduism does say that to acheive enlightenment, one cannot be materialistic and tribalistic. But, in the real world where the vast majority of people are not at that spiritual level, there will be tribalism, whether in a mild form like the clans (western propaganda translation: castes) of India or in harsher forms like violent ethnic clases in the Balkans or Shia/Sunni killings in Iraq or ethnic caste wars in Pakistan.
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Vivekananda was evidently mistaken here because Jesus (if he existed in the first place) was not killed by Jews as later day xtian propaganda makes him out to be.
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