09-19-2006, 09:22 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Bodhi+Sep 19 2006, 04:58 PM-->QUOTE(Bodhi @ Sep 19 2006, 04:58 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Parikshita, featured in the Mahabharata as the grandson of Arjuna Pandava (a central character)
* Janamejaya (until c. 1000 BC), son of Parikshita
If Mahabharat happened about 3000 BC, then Janamejaya can not be in around 1000 BC...even if we consider a longer life spans of single generations. So, Janamejaya must be much before 1000 BC?
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If Buddha is around 500 BCE (the Chinese place him around 1000 BCE), we still are a few centuries removed from the last royal Pandavas, Barhadrathas and Ikshvakus. Some 25-30 kings are ruling after the Battle.
But in Buddha's time, the Kurus of Indraprastha were insignificant and most easterners were republican.
This lends support to a Battle around 15th century BCE (Dvaraka submerged) with the gap of a republican period from 500 BE backwards. Or to 2000 BCE with the Chinese date of Buddha.
A date around 1000 BCE is untenable against the Dvaraka case being submerged around the 15th c. BCE and being referred to in the middle layer of the Mahabharata.
After the Pradyotas
The 5 kings of this dynasty were in the time of Buddha and Bimbisara.
0. Nandivardhana I Shaishunaga
1. Ugrasena Kalashoka Mahanandin
2. Bhaddasena Mahanandin
3. Korandavanna Mahanandin
4. Mangura Mahanandin
5. Sabbanjaha Mahanandin
6. Jalika Mahanandin
7. Ubhaka Mahanandin
8. Sanjaya Mahanandin
9. Korabya Mahanandin
10. Nandivaddhana (II) Mahanandin
11. Pancamaka Mahanandin
Then we have the Nandas
1.Uggasena
2.Panduka
3.Pandugati
4.Bhutapala
5.Ratthapala
6.Govisanaka
7.Dasasiddhaka (Kathasaritsagara: Sarvarthasiddhi = Mahapadmananda
8.Kevatta
9.Dhana illigitimate king
10. Pavvata (son of previous)
The "Maurya" Nandas were actually of Nanda Kula
1.Nandendu=Candragupta Mauryaputra (Mudrarakshasa: ligitimate Nanda heir)
2.Nandasara (VayuPurana)
3.Ashokavardhana (was he Nandavardhana Ashoka?)
4.Suyashas
5.Bandhupalita
6.Indrapalita
7.Devavarman
8.Somasharman
9.Shatadhanvan
Afterwards came the Shungas and Kanvayanas and Andhras. The first two names are nowhere mentioned in any epigraphical work or Indian work relating to post-Alexandrian times. The Andhras are still powerful upto the time of Mewgasthenes.
The Andhrabhrtya Shatavahanas rule from the time of Piyadassi on and become independant during Agnimitra (a Baimbika as per Kalidasa's Malavikagnimitram)
In short, we have 30 kings plus Shungas, Kanvayanas and Andhras between Buddha and Chandragupta (a Karaskara as per Kaumudimahotsava, a Maurya as per Harshacharitam through Brhadratha the last scion).
Thus with these genealogies from combined Bauddha and Pauranika sources the Battle can never have been around 1000 BCE.
* Janamejaya (until c. 1000 BC), son of Parikshita
If Mahabharat happened about 3000 BC, then Janamejaya can not be in around 1000 BC...even if we consider a longer life spans of single generations. So, Janamejaya must be much before 1000 BC?
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If Buddha is around 500 BCE (the Chinese place him around 1000 BCE), we still are a few centuries removed from the last royal Pandavas, Barhadrathas and Ikshvakus. Some 25-30 kings are ruling after the Battle.
But in Buddha's time, the Kurus of Indraprastha were insignificant and most easterners were republican.
This lends support to a Battle around 15th century BCE (Dvaraka submerged) with the gap of a republican period from 500 BE backwards. Or to 2000 BCE with the Chinese date of Buddha.
A date around 1000 BCE is untenable against the Dvaraka case being submerged around the 15th c. BCE and being referred to in the middle layer of the Mahabharata.
After the Pradyotas
The 5 kings of this dynasty were in the time of Buddha and Bimbisara.
0. Nandivardhana I Shaishunaga
1. Ugrasena Kalashoka Mahanandin
2. Bhaddasena Mahanandin
3. Korandavanna Mahanandin
4. Mangura Mahanandin
5. Sabbanjaha Mahanandin
6. Jalika Mahanandin
7. Ubhaka Mahanandin
8. Sanjaya Mahanandin
9. Korabya Mahanandin
10. Nandivaddhana (II) Mahanandin
11. Pancamaka Mahanandin
Then we have the Nandas
1.Uggasena
2.Panduka
3.Pandugati
4.Bhutapala
5.Ratthapala
6.Govisanaka
7.Dasasiddhaka (Kathasaritsagara: Sarvarthasiddhi = Mahapadmananda
8.Kevatta
9.Dhana illigitimate king
10. Pavvata (son of previous)
The "Maurya" Nandas were actually of Nanda Kula
1.Nandendu=Candragupta Mauryaputra (Mudrarakshasa: ligitimate Nanda heir)
2.Nandasara (VayuPurana)
3.Ashokavardhana (was he Nandavardhana Ashoka?)
4.Suyashas
5.Bandhupalita
6.Indrapalita
7.Devavarman
8.Somasharman
9.Shatadhanvan
Afterwards came the Shungas and Kanvayanas and Andhras. The first two names are nowhere mentioned in any epigraphical work or Indian work relating to post-Alexandrian times. The Andhras are still powerful upto the time of Mewgasthenes.
The Andhrabhrtya Shatavahanas rule from the time of Piyadassi on and become independant during Agnimitra (a Baimbika as per Kalidasa's Malavikagnimitram)
In short, we have 30 kings plus Shungas, Kanvayanas and Andhras between Buddha and Chandragupta (a Karaskara as per Kaumudimahotsava, a Maurya as per Harshacharitam through Brhadratha the last scion).
Thus with these genealogies from combined Bauddha and Pauranika sources the Battle can never have been around 1000 BCE.