09-18-2006, 03:33 PM
another two response that came in email to Slobo Thomas:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Mr. Thomas,
May I advise you that Christianity as a religion has zero contribution
to world progress. You are using concepts like "Western", "European",
"Progress", and "Technology" as being synonymous with "Christianity"
and this connection is 100% false.
In fact were it not for the reformation, Christianity would still be putting
Scientists to death, going on witch hunts and burning people alive, while
proclaiming that the earth is flat.
Your attempts to mask Western Europe's progress in Technology via
Industrial Revolution under the banner of a dogmatic faith like Christianity
only reflects your own ignorance and deception.
Christians did not make any nation what it is today Mr. Thomas; it is
Western Scientists and Engineers who did. Many of those individuals
may have been Christians in their private life, but their contributions to
society were in spite of their religion and not because of it.
Today advances in Science and Technology are seriously threatened
by the resurgence of dogmatic, blind-faith Christian ideologies in USA
such as Creationism, hatred of other faiths and suppression of women.
The fundamental traits of all Abrahamic religions are the same when it
comes to dogma, seeking the destruction of other religions, considering
non-human life forms as worthless, and promoting the inferior status of
women as being objects of property to be owned, used and controlled.
The "Christian" nation you dream of in your deluded reality Mr. Thomas,
is simply the cross replacing the crescent, Vatican replacing the Kaaba,
and crusader rule replacing the Taliban. I have no intention of living in a
planet controlled by such fascists and will use every remaining breath in
my present life to oppose this return to the dark ages. If people like you
have their way, people like me will lose -- but I can assure you we will
not go down without a fight.
No, Mr. Thomas -- Hinduism is not perfect and neither are Hindus. And
I have to acknowledge you are correct in that the erosion of Hindu values
in India today has little to do with Christian missionaries and a lot to do
with Western influences and their blind adoption by middle class Hindus.
However, I will maintain that unlike Christianity -- Hinduism does NOT
need separation of church and state, because science and technology
are intrinsic to its practice. The overwhelming majority of ancient science,
mathematics and engineering studied by Hindus as part of their religion
are reinforced by modern discoveries of today. Western, Mid-Eastern
and Oriental historical personages have testified to the marvels of Hindu
civilization since the last 2 and 1/2 millennia, and paid glorious tributes
acknowledging the contribution of Hindu scholars to Science, Astronomy,
Mathematics, Numerology, Linguistics, Logic, Art, Architecture, etc. etc.
While Hinduism accepts that Christianity and all other faiths are different
ways to reach God -- Christianity desires the extinction of every religion
besides itself (the present Pope Benedict VI has gone on record stating
that Hinduism is a FALSE religion).
Given this reality Mr. Thomas, which do you think is the bigger threat to
humanity today -- alleged Hindutva operatives in a largely Christian nation
such as USA, or Christian Missionaries in a largely Hindu nation such as
India?? I would rather live in an Hindu dominated planet where non-Hindu
religions are still considered religions, and non-Hindus are still considered
human beings -- rather than a Christian planet where non-Christian faiths
are targeted for extermination, and non-Christians are considered vermin.
Sleep well Mr. Thomas. For now, it appears the Taliban is winning.
Sincerely,
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->You might be glad to know that NRIs in USA are working hard for ending persecution of Christians in USA. A very good personal friend's church was shut down because they wanted to appoint a qualified and caring lady as priest. At another place, a gay priest was shown door. These aren't isolated cases, it's pretty much a wide spread phenomenon. Hundreds of good Christians abused by the pedophile priests are yet to get their day in court and is constantly blocked by radicals. Around the country we have clergy who are advocating as which way to vote - as in <i>vote for President who has direct hot line with Jesus</i>; this despite separation of church and state.
We have no use for gratuitous unsolicited advise from Slobodan apologists in Europe feigning concerns about minorities anywhere in the world. Let alone Christians in India or anywhere else. Let them mop their own mess first<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Mr. Thomas,
May I advise you that Christianity as a religion has zero contribution
to world progress. You are using concepts like "Western", "European",
"Progress", and "Technology" as being synonymous with "Christianity"
and this connection is 100% false.
In fact were it not for the reformation, Christianity would still be putting
Scientists to death, going on witch hunts and burning people alive, while
proclaiming that the earth is flat.
Your attempts to mask Western Europe's progress in Technology via
Industrial Revolution under the banner of a dogmatic faith like Christianity
only reflects your own ignorance and deception.
Christians did not make any nation what it is today Mr. Thomas; it is
Western Scientists and Engineers who did. Many of those individuals
may have been Christians in their private life, but their contributions to
society were in spite of their religion and not because of it.
Today advances in Science and Technology are seriously threatened
by the resurgence of dogmatic, blind-faith Christian ideologies in USA
such as Creationism, hatred of other faiths and suppression of women.
The fundamental traits of all Abrahamic religions are the same when it
comes to dogma, seeking the destruction of other religions, considering
non-human life forms as worthless, and promoting the inferior status of
women as being objects of property to be owned, used and controlled.
The "Christian" nation you dream of in your deluded reality Mr. Thomas,
is simply the cross replacing the crescent, Vatican replacing the Kaaba,
and crusader rule replacing the Taliban. I have no intention of living in a
planet controlled by such fascists and will use every remaining breath in
my present life to oppose this return to the dark ages. If people like you
have their way, people like me will lose -- but I can assure you we will
not go down without a fight.
No, Mr. Thomas -- Hinduism is not perfect and neither are Hindus. And
I have to acknowledge you are correct in that the erosion of Hindu values
in India today has little to do with Christian missionaries and a lot to do
with Western influences and their blind adoption by middle class Hindus.
However, I will maintain that unlike Christianity -- Hinduism does NOT
need separation of church and state, because science and technology
are intrinsic to its practice. The overwhelming majority of ancient science,
mathematics and engineering studied by Hindus as part of their religion
are reinforced by modern discoveries of today. Western, Mid-Eastern
and Oriental historical personages have testified to the marvels of Hindu
civilization since the last 2 and 1/2 millennia, and paid glorious tributes
acknowledging the contribution of Hindu scholars to Science, Astronomy,
Mathematics, Numerology, Linguistics, Logic, Art, Architecture, etc. etc.
While Hinduism accepts that Christianity and all other faiths are different
ways to reach God -- Christianity desires the extinction of every religion
besides itself (the present Pope Benedict VI has gone on record stating
that Hinduism is a FALSE religion).
Given this reality Mr. Thomas, which do you think is the bigger threat to
humanity today -- alleged Hindutva operatives in a largely Christian nation
such as USA, or Christian Missionaries in a largely Hindu nation such as
India?? I would rather live in an Hindu dominated planet where non-Hindu
religions are still considered religions, and non-Hindus are still considered
human beings -- rather than a Christian planet where non-Christian faiths
are targeted for extermination, and non-Christians are considered vermin.
Sleep well Mr. Thomas. For now, it appears the Taliban is winning.
Sincerely,
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->You might be glad to know that NRIs in USA are working hard for ending persecution of Christians in USA. A very good personal friend's church was shut down because they wanted to appoint a qualified and caring lady as priest. At another place, a gay priest was shown door. These aren't isolated cases, it's pretty much a wide spread phenomenon. Hundreds of good Christians abused by the pedophile priests are yet to get their day in court and is constantly blocked by radicals. Around the country we have clergy who are advocating as which way to vote - as in <i>vote for President who has direct hot line with Jesus</i>; this despite separation of church and state.
We have no use for gratuitous unsolicited advise from Slobodan apologists in Europe feigning concerns about minorities anywhere in the world. Let alone Christians in India or anywhere else. Let them mop their own mess first<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->