<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->yes. and the druids were very vedic. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Vedas were written in India, just prior to the Indians and Iranians splitting up. The Druids' ancestors had nothing to do with the Vedas. Hence, not Vedic.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->root words of malayalee and tamil have a lot more in common than the root words of bengali and urdu. and if it isnt - its cos of the sanskrit influence<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Yes, Malayali is a South Indian Language. No, pre-Malayali language of Kerala had split from Tamil <i>before</i> Sanskrit words entered. But Sanskrit words form integral parts of Malayalam, Tamil, Kannadam, Telugu, etc. No one is denying that.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->before which they shared the same gene and knowledge pol with the vedic indians. then they went west with their version of the vedas and formed zoroastrianism.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->They never had a version of the Vedas with which they went west. Hence not Vedic. You really know nothing about Iranians do you.
They were specifically not Vedic. They argued about the particular religious doctrines Hindus held. Gene pool has nothing to do with the Vedas. The following might hopefully help you to understand:
- The <i>Vedas</i> are religious scriptures, so use <i>Vedic</i> as a religion term if you are going to use it (don't confuse it with ethnicity)
- <i>Indo-Aryan</i> is a linguistic group - refers only to North Indian languages (don't confuse it with ethnicity)
- <i>Aryan</i> - supposed to have been a linguistic term. But used as an ethnicity by nazis and indologists. You can use it as a racial term, but know that in doing so, you agree with the AIT position, the Nazi position and other similar position.
- <i>Arya</i> is an adverb in Sanskrit and Avestan. Sanskrit-speakers and Avestan speakers - Hindus, Jains, Zoroastrians - specifically refused to use the term to designate Shakas and other Indo-European people. The term is used to refer to monkeys (Vanara, see Ramayana), Chinese (later on), names given to pets (a practise from ancient times to today), principles (Buddhism and other Indian religions), positions (Acharya, teacher/philosopher - used amongst Hindus and Jains).
Don't get the terms mixed. So far, you've been using all four words to refer to the same thing. I know English has lots of words with the same meanings, but the same does not apply here.
Talking about Gene Pool, all North Indians have East Indian genes and both groups have South Indian genes. Are you wanting to pick a particular time and wipe the slate clean of all that came before it? Prior to the Vedas, the Indian Gods were already part of the pan-Indian religious beliefs. Something many western Indologist (purposefully?) overlook. You obviously do too.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Kashmir was Shaivaite and Shaktic. Afghanistan was very Shaivaite.
yes. and aryan.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> - Aryan is a Tamil pronunciation of Sanskrit Arya.
- Aryan if you mean the English term, is either a Nazi word or the AIT term (close enough to the nazi word). You obviously speak of the pro-AIT word. Hence, you think you are not native to India.
- The West and many proponents (not all) of the AIT claim Shiva and Shakti were Dravidian and not Aryan. Fight it out with them. I know Shiva and Shakti are pan-Indian Gods of the Hindus.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->root words of malayalee and tamil have a lot more in common than the root words of bengali and urdu. and if it isnt - its cos of the sanskrit influence<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Yes, Malayali is a South Indian Language. No, pre-Malayali language of Kerala had split from Tamil <i>before</i> Sanskrit words entered. But Sanskrit words form integral parts of Malayalam, Tamil, Kannadam, Telugu, etc. No one is denying that.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->before which they shared the same gene and knowledge pol with the vedic indians. then they went west with their version of the vedas and formed zoroastrianism.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->They never had a version of the Vedas with which they went west. Hence not Vedic. You really know nothing about Iranians do you.
They were specifically not Vedic. They argued about the particular religious doctrines Hindus held. Gene pool has nothing to do with the Vedas. The following might hopefully help you to understand:
- The <i>Vedas</i> are religious scriptures, so use <i>Vedic</i> as a religion term if you are going to use it (don't confuse it with ethnicity)
- <i>Indo-Aryan</i> is a linguistic group - refers only to North Indian languages (don't confuse it with ethnicity)
- <i>Aryan</i> - supposed to have been a linguistic term. But used as an ethnicity by nazis and indologists. You can use it as a racial term, but know that in doing so, you agree with the AIT position, the Nazi position and other similar position.
- <i>Arya</i> is an adverb in Sanskrit and Avestan. Sanskrit-speakers and Avestan speakers - Hindus, Jains, Zoroastrians - specifically refused to use the term to designate Shakas and other Indo-European people. The term is used to refer to monkeys (Vanara, see Ramayana), Chinese (later on), names given to pets (a practise from ancient times to today), principles (Buddhism and other Indian religions), positions (Acharya, teacher/philosopher - used amongst Hindus and Jains).
Don't get the terms mixed. So far, you've been using all four words to refer to the same thing. I know English has lots of words with the same meanings, but the same does not apply here.
Talking about Gene Pool, all North Indians have East Indian genes and both groups have South Indian genes. Are you wanting to pick a particular time and wipe the slate clean of all that came before it? Prior to the Vedas, the Indian Gods were already part of the pan-Indian religious beliefs. Something many western Indologist (purposefully?) overlook. You obviously do too.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Kashmir was Shaivaite and Shaktic. Afghanistan was very Shaivaite.
yes. and aryan.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> - Aryan is a Tamil pronunciation of Sanskrit Arya.
- Aryan if you mean the English term, is either a Nazi word or the AIT term (close enough to the nazi word). You obviously speak of the pro-AIT word. Hence, you think you are not native to India.
- The West and many proponents (not all) of the AIT claim Shiva and Shakti were Dravidian and not Aryan. Fight it out with them. I know Shiva and Shakti are pan-Indian Gods of the Hindus.