01-13-2006, 10:19 AM
Concerning the beginnings of monotheism in Zoroastrianism: in India, bridegrooms are sometimes goaded by their wives/family to give up active worship of Sri Hanuman after marriage. Wives have been known to oppose Sundarkand Path by their husbands. Similarly, Shiva is not worshipped by females. Couldn't the supposed aggressive monotheism of the zoraastrians have started out as something similar, but when plunged into the religious cauldron of the ANE mutated into something more "prophetic" and "iconoclastic".
A few centuries or millenia later, the Buddhists in the ANE encountered something similar when they tried to discourse with the radical Essene Jews. Christianity was born from that encounter. As detailed by G. Subramaniam, Christianity was "Buddhist experiment gone horribly wrong"
Ant then, there is also the account given by Kak of The Mittani-Kassite traditions mutating into Tutankhamen's exclusive Diety worship. But there is some indication that Tutankhamen's monotheism may just be abrahamic wishful thinking.
I have also read an account of an isolated brahmin group in S india that was iconoclastic in a ritual fashion (Adidasan on Hinduunity, 2-3 years back).
Is there any account of zoroastrians actually being iconoclastic ??
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Another thing to be considered is that the fifty year hellenistic rule in persia was brought about in large part because of internal sabotaging and slave revolts throughout the empire. In contrast, India has never had such phenomenon as slave revolts, as sardonically noted by our communist pretenders-"india has never had a revolution". Personally, I believe there are some permanent sadistic streaks in the mideast psyche. For a vedic type culture to survive in that type of environment, it was almost a given that the intrusive persians would deviate a little bit.
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Secondly, Zoroaster (whose work is the Avesta which mentions Airyanam Vaejo) was born in Afghanistan which is east of Iran.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Even the Indologists sometimes let slip that the Avesta corresponds to an Eastern Iranian (afghani) dialect, while the Gathas form the later persian empire era correspond to a western iranian (Farsi proper) dialect. Kashmiri itself is alloted as Dardic and is never allowed to bridge the divide between Indic and Iranian, since this would basically confirm Talageri's proposal of a Kashmiri Airyanam Vaejo. Talageri also gives a warning that the apparent congruency between Avestan and Vedic forms is due to a shared classical period, rather than from a common descent from putative indo-iranian.
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A few centuries or millenia later, the Buddhists in the ANE encountered something similar when they tried to discourse with the radical Essene Jews. Christianity was born from that encounter. As detailed by G. Subramaniam, Christianity was "Buddhist experiment gone horribly wrong"
Ant then, there is also the account given by Kak of The Mittani-Kassite traditions mutating into Tutankhamen's exclusive Diety worship. But there is some indication that Tutankhamen's monotheism may just be abrahamic wishful thinking.
I have also read an account of an isolated brahmin group in S india that was iconoclastic in a ritual fashion (Adidasan on Hinduunity, 2-3 years back).
Is there any account of zoroastrians actually being iconoclastic ??
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Another thing to be considered is that the fifty year hellenistic rule in persia was brought about in large part because of internal sabotaging and slave revolts throughout the empire. In contrast, India has never had such phenomenon as slave revolts, as sardonically noted by our communist pretenders-"india has never had a revolution". Personally, I believe there are some permanent sadistic streaks in the mideast psyche. For a vedic type culture to survive in that type of environment, it was almost a given that the intrusive persians would deviate a little bit.
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Secondly, Zoroaster (whose work is the Avesta which mentions Airyanam Vaejo) was born in Afghanistan which is east of Iran.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Even the Indologists sometimes let slip that the Avesta corresponds to an Eastern Iranian (afghani) dialect, while the Gathas form the later persian empire era correspond to a western iranian (Farsi proper) dialect. Kashmiri itself is alloted as Dardic and is never allowed to bridge the divide between Indic and Iranian, since this would basically confirm Talageri's proposal of a Kashmiri Airyanam Vaejo. Talageri also gives a warning that the apparent congruency between Avestan and Vedic forms is due to a shared classical period, rather than from a common descent from putative indo-iranian.
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