12-14-2005, 08:57 AM
Mitradena:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->It is fairly obvious that Aaryaavarta lies within India.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, no doubt that Aryavarta is inside India. However, Airyana is the proper name of Iran. It means the same thing. And the Iranian inscription of King Darius (don't know which Darius he was) states that he is "Parshya, Parshya Putra; Arya Arya Chitra" meaning "Parshu/Persian, son of a Parshu; Noble, from a noble family".
We share the word Arya in its meaning as Noble (not as the modern European idea of its meaning as race) with the Iranians.
But don't be disheartened, the Persian scriptures indicate that the original homeland of Iranians is to the east of Iran. And our scriptures (the Rg Veda and Puranas) indicate that the Parshus, Parthas, Pashtuns, the Baluchis - in short all the major Iranian and Afghan tribes who were related to our own Pauravas (Puru tribe), as well as the Iranian Dasas, Dasyus and Panis - are from India and emigrated into the west. They went to Afghanistan. Iran was populated only after Afghanistan, even according to the Persian records. Zoroastrianism was founded in Afghanistan in Balkh.
See http://www.bharatvani.org/books/ait/ch46.htm
4.6. MEMORY OF THE URHEIMAT (Koenraad Elst)
And the page at http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/article...icevidence.html
mentions how the Dasas, Dasyus and Panis were Iranian tribes and not some figment of AIT's imagination called 'Dravidians'.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->So all the white Europoid tribes like Yavanas (Greeks), Parthavas (Parthians), Pahlavas (an Iranian tribe) and red haired Scythians and Tocharians are all barbarians unfit to be called Aryan.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Anyone who is noble spirited can be called Arya. Some Chinese were called Arya by our ancestors. I think our ancestors know better as to when the term applies.
But I agree, anyone who thinks Arya is a race, is automatically headed towards anarya. So that includes any people you mentioned if they claim to be of some Aryan race.
By the way, the Iranian tribes are actually closer to us than they are to others. In the past, they were also culturally and religiously closer to us.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->It is fairly obvious that Aaryaavarta lies within India.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, no doubt that Aryavarta is inside India. However, Airyana is the proper name of Iran. It means the same thing. And the Iranian inscription of King Darius (don't know which Darius he was) states that he is "Parshya, Parshya Putra; Arya Arya Chitra" meaning "Parshu/Persian, son of a Parshu; Noble, from a noble family".
We share the word Arya in its meaning as Noble (not as the modern European idea of its meaning as race) with the Iranians.
But don't be disheartened, the Persian scriptures indicate that the original homeland of Iranians is to the east of Iran. And our scriptures (the Rg Veda and Puranas) indicate that the Parshus, Parthas, Pashtuns, the Baluchis - in short all the major Iranian and Afghan tribes who were related to our own Pauravas (Puru tribe), as well as the Iranian Dasas, Dasyus and Panis - are from India and emigrated into the west. They went to Afghanistan. Iran was populated only after Afghanistan, even according to the Persian records. Zoroastrianism was founded in Afghanistan in Balkh.
See http://www.bharatvani.org/books/ait/ch46.htm
4.6. MEMORY OF THE URHEIMAT (Koenraad Elst)
And the page at http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/article...icevidence.html
mentions how the Dasas, Dasyus and Panis were Iranian tribes and not some figment of AIT's imagination called 'Dravidians'.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->So all the white Europoid tribes like Yavanas (Greeks), Parthavas (Parthians), Pahlavas (an Iranian tribe) and red haired Scythians and Tocharians are all barbarians unfit to be called Aryan.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Anyone who is noble spirited can be called Arya. Some Chinese were called Arya by our ancestors. I think our ancestors know better as to when the term applies.
But I agree, anyone who thinks Arya is a race, is automatically headed towards anarya. So that includes any people you mentioned if they claim to be of some Aryan race.
By the way, the Iranian tribes are actually closer to us than they are to others. In the past, they were also culturally and religiously closer to us.