12-13-2005, 06:07 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->He then replied back saying he considers India a bigger threat to the west than the entire Islamic world combined, simply because Indians are intelligent and "arrogantly" proud of their culture and religion. Further they along with China are the only serious alternatives to western civilization.
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Mitradena, this is the same reason why (neo-)nazis hate Jewish people, whether still religious or just affiliated by ancestry. Jewish people are considered an extreme threat because of their intelligence.
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Some fools even support an Aryan Invasion Theory for China and Japan.
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It's true that they now have an AIT for China. The article "Hidden Discourses of Race: Imagining Europeans in China - By Nathan Light" (linked from the page on AIT at www.atributetohinduism.com) is located at http://homepages.utoledo.edu/nlight/uyghhst.htm
Blond mummies found in the region has made all the declared and non-declared 'Aryan' racists jump for joy for the supposed European presence there. However the author of the article makes it clear that this unlikely conclusion is a huge assumption on their part.
As for Japan, the original Jimon inhabitants supposedly had Caucasian features like their possible descendents Ainu purportedly have (whatever those features are: two eyes, a nose and a mouth, right? Check.) However, they can be related to the Native Americans too, who by fascist standards look pretty 'Caucasian' too.
Be that as it may, the Ainu were and still seem to be shamanistic. Although the Japanese religion of Shintoism is shamanistic too, the Ainu way of life still has nothing to do with the different cultural developments of the various Japanese Eras including the Feudal ones. The caste system of Japan, previously known as (if memory serves) 'the land of the 1000 castes', is not related to the Ainu either. So whether the latter were Caucasian or not is irrelevant, as Japan's fascinating society and achievements belong to the Japanese. (The Ainu have made their own contributions, but that's not the feudal culture.)
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->They claim the modern day Greeks are not pure Nordic Whites and have mixed with various slave races.Â
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Yes, this is well-known slander. The AIT had huge repercussions not only for us Indians. I've read that Greeks hate it. At some point, especially during nazi time, the 'scientific' sphere was dominated by racial paradigms. They insisted that Greek civilisation in its entirety must have been derived from Germany. Maybe it was the highly athletic looking statues (but then, the many African communities look pretty athletic to me).
Especially the Doric tribe (of which Alexander III aka the Great was descended), which was declared a German tribe that had more recently moved in from the North. Which would work out well for the world-conquering notions of nazi-Germany: by aligning themselves with an actual success story, they thought they'd get greatness by association. Problem was, there's no association. Yes, Alexander and Helen of Sparta (Helen of Troy) and a few others were known for their fair hair. But this occurs among Greeks, perhaps a little more so in the past when there was less opportunity for the various Greek clans to meet and intermarry and reduce the occurrence of the recessive fair hair.
An especially vindictive book about the supposed German ancestry of all ancient Greeks of note and the supposedly 'diminished' Greeks of the present-day, was written by a German who'd never set foot in Greece! And yet that (non-scientific) book is still used as 'proof' for nazis agitating for a German cause for Greek civilisation.
It's no surprise that the Greeks (and Romans) were tainted by the reverse-blast of the AIT. After all, weren't the Zimbabweans denied the right to rejoice in their ancestors' marvellous capacity for building cities? Weren't Rwandans denied the ability with which they came up with their own complex socio-cultural system (much like the Indian one)? And yet these were all indigenous.
Likewise, it seems it's now the turn of China and Japan. Everyone deemed to have a civilization by the neo-nazi/colonial/racist standards, appear to be vulnerable to be robbed of their due credit. Hopefully both countries will look well at India and realise that they need to nip these lies in the bud right now. Anti-nationalism isn't the only problem to come out of this sort of thing, conversions to Christianity will be lurking just around the corner.
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Mitradena, this is the same reason why (neo-)nazis hate Jewish people, whether still religious or just affiliated by ancestry. Jewish people are considered an extreme threat because of their intelligence.
By the way, it's good to know that that site is off your visiting list <!--emo&
--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Some fools even support an Aryan Invasion Theory for China and Japan.
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It's true that they now have an AIT for China. The article "Hidden Discourses of Race: Imagining Europeans in China - By Nathan Light" (linked from the page on AIT at www.atributetohinduism.com) is located at http://homepages.utoledo.edu/nlight/uyghhst.htm
Blond mummies found in the region has made all the declared and non-declared 'Aryan' racists jump for joy for the supposed European presence there. However the author of the article makes it clear that this unlikely conclusion is a huge assumption on their part.
As for Japan, the original Jimon inhabitants supposedly had Caucasian features like their possible descendents Ainu purportedly have (whatever those features are: two eyes, a nose and a mouth, right? Check.) However, they can be related to the Native Americans too, who by fascist standards look pretty 'Caucasian' too.
Be that as it may, the Ainu were and still seem to be shamanistic. Although the Japanese religion of Shintoism is shamanistic too, the Ainu way of life still has nothing to do with the different cultural developments of the various Japanese Eras including the Feudal ones. The caste system of Japan, previously known as (if memory serves) 'the land of the 1000 castes', is not related to the Ainu either. So whether the latter were Caucasian or not is irrelevant, as Japan's fascinating society and achievements belong to the Japanese. (The Ainu have made their own contributions, but that's not the feudal culture.)
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->They claim the modern day Greeks are not pure Nordic Whites and have mixed with various slave races.Â
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, this is well-known slander. The AIT had huge repercussions not only for us Indians. I've read that Greeks hate it. At some point, especially during nazi time, the 'scientific' sphere was dominated by racial paradigms. They insisted that Greek civilisation in its entirety must have been derived from Germany. Maybe it was the highly athletic looking statues (but then, the many African communities look pretty athletic to me).
Especially the Doric tribe (of which Alexander III aka the Great was descended), which was declared a German tribe that had more recently moved in from the North. Which would work out well for the world-conquering notions of nazi-Germany: by aligning themselves with an actual success story, they thought they'd get greatness by association. Problem was, there's no association. Yes, Alexander and Helen of Sparta (Helen of Troy) and a few others were known for their fair hair. But this occurs among Greeks, perhaps a little more so in the past when there was less opportunity for the various Greek clans to meet and intermarry and reduce the occurrence of the recessive fair hair.
An especially vindictive book about the supposed German ancestry of all ancient Greeks of note and the supposedly 'diminished' Greeks of the present-day, was written by a German who'd never set foot in Greece! And yet that (non-scientific) book is still used as 'proof' for nazis agitating for a German cause for Greek civilisation.
It's no surprise that the Greeks (and Romans) were tainted by the reverse-blast of the AIT. After all, weren't the Zimbabweans denied the right to rejoice in their ancestors' marvellous capacity for building cities? Weren't Rwandans denied the ability with which they came up with their own complex socio-cultural system (much like the Indian one)? And yet these were all indigenous.
Likewise, it seems it's now the turn of China and Japan. Everyone deemed to have a civilization by the neo-nazi/colonial/racist standards, appear to be vulnerable to be robbed of their due credit. Hopefully both countries will look well at India and realise that they need to nip these lies in the bud right now. Anti-nationalism isn't the only problem to come out of this sort of thing, conversions to Christianity will be lurking just around the corner.