11-23-2005, 02:19 AM
I think the bile oozing out of these articles is telling..
http://www.saag.org/BB/view.asp?msgID=24070
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The Hindu
Nov 19, 2005
AIDWA HITS OUT AT RSS CALL TO PRODUCE MORE CHILDREN
Special Correspondent
Women cannot be seen as reproductive machines serving Hindu nationalist
agenda
# Reproductive choice is a matter of right
# Mischievous propaganda will fan hatred
# Size of family is not determined by community
NEW DELHI: The All-India Democratic Women's Association (AIDWA) on
Friday criticised Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh chief K.S. Sudarshan's
call to Hindus to produce more children and reject the two-child norm.
Referring to Mr. Sudarshan's statement that the 2001 census data showed
a decline in Hindu population in certain States including in the
northeast and his call to "perform the sacred duty of contributing to
the cause of maintaining a Hindu majority in the country", the AIDWA
said he was totally regardless of the fact that reproductive choice had
to do with a woman's right over her body, well-being and health and
economic capacity to provide for her children.
"She cannot be seen as a reproductive machine serving the Hindu
nationalist agenda. At the same time, Mr. Sudarshan has deliberately
confused the rate of population growth with population strength to
promote communal paranoia in the psyche of the Hindu majority fanning
the fear of being swamped by religious minorities in the coming years,"
AIDWA president Subhashini Ali said in a statement here.
"False arithmetic"
For quite some time now the false arithmetic about Muslims producing
more children because they had the legal sanction to marry more than
once was flaunted by the likes of Mr. Sudarshan, in spite of the
statistically established fact that the percentage of polygamous Hindus
was slightly higher than the percentage of polygamous Muslims. "This
mischievous propaganda will not only help to fan communal hatred but
[also] Hindu women not able to produce the desired number of children
will be seen as not having fulfilled her duty towards her community."
Further, which Hindus was Mr. Sudarshan talking about? Was it about
urban affluent Hindus who accepted the small family norm? Did he not
know that the size of the family was determined by comparative
affluence, access to education and other basic civil rights and not by
the community one belonged to? "If he was at all talking about the
millions of economically deprived, caste-oppressed, hunger-ridden
'Hindus' who have no access to the basic necessities of life and are no
different from the poor of other communities in that respect, he would
not be raising the slogan of bigger families but [be] talking about the
need to provide them with the basic necessities of life."
o o o
PRESS STATEMENT
November 19, 2005
RSS CHIEF SUDERSHAN'S CALL FOR A DOZEN SONS PER HINDU FAMILY IRRATIONAL;
INSULT TO INDIAN WOMEN, MINORITIES
[The Following is the Text of the Press Statement by National
Integration Council Member Dr. John Dayal, President, AICU and
Secretary general, All India Christian Council.]
Over the years, the nation has come to expect the most bizarre and
dangerous statements from the hyper-nationalist Rashtriya Swayam Sewak
Sangh and its leadership - ranging from demands for eradicating
neighboring countries to a sustained diatribe against Muslim and
Christian religious minorities who are citizens of India. RSS views on
the status of women, their contempt for the Constitution of India and
their infinite capacity to attempt to overwhelm Indian plurality and the
identity of Tribals, ethnic and linguistic minorities have alarmed Civil
society for undermining the democratic norms that sustain the unity and
integrity of India.
But the septuagenarian and bachelor RSS chief Kupahalli Sudershan's call
that Hindu couples produce more than three children - indeed advocating
11 or a dozen sons per family - to sustain their religious majority in
India goes beyond the bizarre and the irrational. It is a racist
statement soiled by foul religious bigotry and harks back to an era of
eugenics and population manipulations that died out with the end of
Hitler's "pure race" concepts. Similar ethnic logic in certain pockets
in Europe and Africa led to genocidal cleansing within living memory.
As callous and terrible is the implied super-patriarchal attitude Mr.
Sudershan and the RSS have of the Indian woman - victim of child rape in
the guise of traditional marriage, and now presented as a political womb
at the service of a maniacal ideology and its demonic hatred towards
other communities. The Indian woman is now being asked to produce enough
children to correct fancied and imagined imbalances in the population of
one religion. The poor woman would be dead long before she achieves the
target set for her by Mr. Sudershan.
The RSS demographic thesis has been given the veneer of academic
exactitude by the highly suspect work of another frontal organization,
the Chennai based Centre for Policy Studies. This work was brought out
soon after the 2001 Census with a foreword by the then Deputy Prime
minister Lal Krishan Advani. The entire purpose of the voluminous tome,
bought by many government departments at the then BJP-led government's
insistence, was to raise a bogey of a Muslim population explosion, and
fears of terrorism in a so called Christian-majority North east.
The statistical data presented was even then exposed to be false
extrapolation. The arguments were against the scientific and official
data produced by the People of India Project of the Government under the
directorship of the redoubtable scholar Dr K S Singh. That series had in
fact even established that polygamy is more common in several non-Muslim
groups than in Muslim groups, which is the standard falsehood and pet RSS grouse.
On Christians, the 2001 census once again established that the
percentage of the Christian population in India is steadily going down
because of the norm of one or two children per family, even among the
poor and in rural areas. The myth of a Christian conspiracy in the
northeast based on population and conversion was also conclusively
exposed to be false, highly motivated and mischievous and meant entirely
to defame an entire community.
It is for senior BJP leaders such as Mr. LK Advani, former Prime
Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee and the women leaders of the group to
answer Mr. Sudershan.
3. MOVEMENT FOR EMPOWERMENT OF MUSLIM INDIANS
PRESS STATEMENT
Navaid Hamid, Member National Integration Council & General Secretary
MOEMIN condemns Sudershan�s remarks on Population
New Delhi 20ovember 2005:
Mr. Navaid Hamid, Member National Integration Council & General
Secretary Movement for Empowerment of Muslim Indians has strongly condemned
the RSS chief statement on Population.
The Sudershan�s misguiding, irrational and dangerous mantra to fellow
countrymen to have as many children as they can is aimed to terrorize
the Hindu brethrens and spread the venom of hatred and fear amongst the
citizens against the religious minorities in the country. The statement
once again shows the true face of the RSS mindset and is an insult to
the women of the country and is indeed the continuation of his diatribe
against the religious minorities.
The civil society of the country has taken serious note of his diatribe
and is united to fight his mindset to undermine the plural character of
the State. The civil society is fully aware about Sundarshan�s and his
fellow Sanghi�s game plan to create confusion, hatred and ground for
ethnic cleansing of the religious minorities & tribal�s.
The data presented by him and RSS frontal institute in the book on the
religious demography is not only totally irrational but also against
the scientific and official statistics available in the country and the
exercise is to raise a false bogey of Muslim population explosion in the
country and that of the Christians in north east.
We earnestly request the Government to immediately contradict and
condemn the RSS exercise to put the rat in mousetrap.
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http://www.saag.org/BB/view.asp?msgID=24070
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The Hindu
Nov 19, 2005
AIDWA HITS OUT AT RSS CALL TO PRODUCE MORE CHILDREN
Special Correspondent
Women cannot be seen as reproductive machines serving Hindu nationalist
agenda
# Reproductive choice is a matter of right
# Mischievous propaganda will fan hatred
# Size of family is not determined by community
NEW DELHI: The All-India Democratic Women's Association (AIDWA) on
Friday criticised Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh chief K.S. Sudarshan's
call to Hindus to produce more children and reject the two-child norm.
Referring to Mr. Sudarshan's statement that the 2001 census data showed
a decline in Hindu population in certain States including in the
northeast and his call to "perform the sacred duty of contributing to
the cause of maintaining a Hindu majority in the country", the AIDWA
said he was totally regardless of the fact that reproductive choice had
to do with a woman's right over her body, well-being and health and
economic capacity to provide for her children.
"She cannot be seen as a reproductive machine serving the Hindu
nationalist agenda. At the same time, Mr. Sudarshan has deliberately
confused the rate of population growth with population strength to
promote communal paranoia in the psyche of the Hindu majority fanning
the fear of being swamped by religious minorities in the coming years,"
AIDWA president Subhashini Ali said in a statement here.
"False arithmetic"
For quite some time now the false arithmetic about Muslims producing
more children because they had the legal sanction to marry more than
once was flaunted by the likes of Mr. Sudarshan, in spite of the
statistically established fact that the percentage of polygamous Hindus
was slightly higher than the percentage of polygamous Muslims. "This
mischievous propaganda will not only help to fan communal hatred but
[also] Hindu women not able to produce the desired number of children
will be seen as not having fulfilled her duty towards her community."
Further, which Hindus was Mr. Sudarshan talking about? Was it about
urban affluent Hindus who accepted the small family norm? Did he not
know that the size of the family was determined by comparative
affluence, access to education and other basic civil rights and not by
the community one belonged to? "If he was at all talking about the
millions of economically deprived, caste-oppressed, hunger-ridden
'Hindus' who have no access to the basic necessities of life and are no
different from the poor of other communities in that respect, he would
not be raising the slogan of bigger families but [be] talking about the
need to provide them with the basic necessities of life."
o o o
PRESS STATEMENT
November 19, 2005
RSS CHIEF SUDERSHAN'S CALL FOR A DOZEN SONS PER HINDU FAMILY IRRATIONAL;
INSULT TO INDIAN WOMEN, MINORITIES
[The Following is the Text of the Press Statement by National
Integration Council Member Dr. John Dayal, President, AICU and
Secretary general, All India Christian Council.]
Over the years, the nation has come to expect the most bizarre and
dangerous statements from the hyper-nationalist Rashtriya Swayam Sewak
Sangh and its leadership - ranging from demands for eradicating
neighboring countries to a sustained diatribe against Muslim and
Christian religious minorities who are citizens of India. RSS views on
the status of women, their contempt for the Constitution of India and
their infinite capacity to attempt to overwhelm Indian plurality and the
identity of Tribals, ethnic and linguistic minorities have alarmed Civil
society for undermining the democratic norms that sustain the unity and
integrity of India.
But the septuagenarian and bachelor RSS chief Kupahalli Sudershan's call
that Hindu couples produce more than three children - indeed advocating
11 or a dozen sons per family - to sustain their religious majority in
India goes beyond the bizarre and the irrational. It is a racist
statement soiled by foul religious bigotry and harks back to an era of
eugenics and population manipulations that died out with the end of
Hitler's "pure race" concepts. Similar ethnic logic in certain pockets
in Europe and Africa led to genocidal cleansing within living memory.
As callous and terrible is the implied super-patriarchal attitude Mr.
Sudershan and the RSS have of the Indian woman - victim of child rape in
the guise of traditional marriage, and now presented as a political womb
at the service of a maniacal ideology and its demonic hatred towards
other communities. The Indian woman is now being asked to produce enough
children to correct fancied and imagined imbalances in the population of
one religion. The poor woman would be dead long before she achieves the
target set for her by Mr. Sudershan.
The RSS demographic thesis has been given the veneer of academic
exactitude by the highly suspect work of another frontal organization,
the Chennai based Centre for Policy Studies. This work was brought out
soon after the 2001 Census with a foreword by the then Deputy Prime
minister Lal Krishan Advani. The entire purpose of the voluminous tome,
bought by many government departments at the then BJP-led government's
insistence, was to raise a bogey of a Muslim population explosion, and
fears of terrorism in a so called Christian-majority North east.
The statistical data presented was even then exposed to be false
extrapolation. The arguments were against the scientific and official
data produced by the People of India Project of the Government under the
directorship of the redoubtable scholar Dr K S Singh. That series had in
fact even established that polygamy is more common in several non-Muslim
groups than in Muslim groups, which is the standard falsehood and pet RSS grouse.
On Christians, the 2001 census once again established that the
percentage of the Christian population in India is steadily going down
because of the norm of one or two children per family, even among the
poor and in rural areas. The myth of a Christian conspiracy in the
northeast based on population and conversion was also conclusively
exposed to be false, highly motivated and mischievous and meant entirely
to defame an entire community.
It is for senior BJP leaders such as Mr. LK Advani, former Prime
Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee and the women leaders of the group to
answer Mr. Sudershan.
3. MOVEMENT FOR EMPOWERMENT OF MUSLIM INDIANS
PRESS STATEMENT
Navaid Hamid, Member National Integration Council & General Secretary
MOEMIN condemns Sudershan�s remarks on Population
New Delhi 20ovember 2005:
Mr. Navaid Hamid, Member National Integration Council & General
Secretary Movement for Empowerment of Muslim Indians has strongly condemned
the RSS chief statement on Population.
The Sudershan�s misguiding, irrational and dangerous mantra to fellow
countrymen to have as many children as they can is aimed to terrorize
the Hindu brethrens and spread the venom of hatred and fear amongst the
citizens against the religious minorities in the country. The statement
once again shows the true face of the RSS mindset and is an insult to
the women of the country and is indeed the continuation of his diatribe
against the religious minorities.
The civil society of the country has taken serious note of his diatribe
and is united to fight his mindset to undermine the plural character of
the State. The civil society is fully aware about Sundarshan�s and his
fellow Sanghi�s game plan to create confusion, hatred and ground for
ethnic cleansing of the religious minorities & tribal�s.
The data presented by him and RSS frontal institute in the book on the
religious demography is not only totally irrational but also against
the scientific and official statistics available in the country and the
exercise is to raise a false bogey of Muslim population explosion in the
country and that of the Christians in north east.
We earnestly request the Government to immediately contradict and
condemn the RSS exercise to put the rat in mousetrap.
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