11-04-2005, 03:00 AM
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Who were these people, where did they live, what was their culture, what was their religion, their philosophy, where in Bharat did they settle, wt was the directions of the migrations, and invasions. When are the first attested, who are the descendants today etc etc?
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Yes this is interesting for sure.
You posted the picture of a statue of Kanishka in the other thread.
The head is missing.
Without the head how can you tell what race he was?
He could have been a Turko-mongol for all we know.
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Mitra
For images , and a âVersionâ of Kushan History see,the urlâs below.
Kaniskaâs imagery on the coins for example shows a bearded person, with very non Mongolian looks.
What is interesting is that the coins depict Shivaji, the Trident, and Nandi the bull. The goddess Ardoxo is taken to be the Hindu Goddess Lakshmi.
http://www.med.unc.edu/~nupam/kushan1.html
http://www.anythinganywhere.com/commerce/c...ndi-kushan.html
http://prabhu.50g.com/kushana/kus_images.html
http://prabhu.50g.com/kushanas.html
Other images include Kartikeya.
Historians have been stumped at terms like Yueh Zhi, treating them as nomads
All that has happened is that a Chinese nomenclature has been used for a non Chinese people.
Once the nomenclature came into use, the rest of the would be historians, used the term unconsciously.
The correct pronunciation of Yueh chi is Gut-ia or Jut-ia for 'g' and 'j' sounds are interchangeable.
So we find these people calling themselves Juts, Jats in those time.
There is also a continuity of domination/rule through the period to the later âGuptasâ[Dharan Jats], and Kushan imagery / customs are found widespread through to Eastern and Southern India. Evidence is there pointing to the spread to the East Asian contries, what is now Indonesia, Vietnam etc.
That should serve as a brief summary
There is lots more.
If you search for Kushan ,Kaniska etc on the Yahoo Jathistory group, you will find more material.
This topic was discussed in some depth.
More comments. insights are welcome.
Ravi Chaudhary
Who were these people, where did they live, what was their culture, what was their religion, their philosophy, where in Bharat did they settle, wt was the directions of the migrations, and invasions. When are the first attested, who are the descendants today etc etc?
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Yes this is interesting for sure.
You posted the picture of a statue of Kanishka in the other thread.
The head is missing.
Without the head how can you tell what race he was?
He could have been a Turko-mongol for all we know.
[right][snapback]40599[/snapback][/right]
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Mitra
For images , and a âVersionâ of Kushan History see,the urlâs below.
Kaniskaâs imagery on the coins for example shows a bearded person, with very non Mongolian looks.
What is interesting is that the coins depict Shivaji, the Trident, and Nandi the bull. The goddess Ardoxo is taken to be the Hindu Goddess Lakshmi.
http://www.med.unc.edu/~nupam/kushan1.html
http://www.anythinganywhere.com/commerce/c...ndi-kushan.html
http://prabhu.50g.com/kushana/kus_images.html
http://prabhu.50g.com/kushanas.html
Other images include Kartikeya.
Historians have been stumped at terms like Yueh Zhi, treating them as nomads
All that has happened is that a Chinese nomenclature has been used for a non Chinese people.
Once the nomenclature came into use, the rest of the would be historians, used the term unconsciously.
The correct pronunciation of Yueh chi is Gut-ia or Jut-ia for 'g' and 'j' sounds are interchangeable.
So we find these people calling themselves Juts, Jats in those time.
There is also a continuity of domination/rule through the period to the later âGuptasâ[Dharan Jats], and Kushan imagery / customs are found widespread through to Eastern and Southern India. Evidence is there pointing to the spread to the East Asian contries, what is now Indonesia, Vietnam etc.
That should serve as a brief summary
There is lots more.
If you search for Kushan ,Kaniska etc on the Yahoo Jathistory group, you will find more material.
This topic was discussed in some depth.
More comments. insights are welcome.
Ravi Chaudhary