11-03-2005, 09:47 PM
Bharatvarash, I heard this story vocally from Sudarshanji so can't provide source.
RSS has done a lot to improve caste system... another incident told by dear Sudarshanji is
"Actually successful and interesting story related re-conversion to Hinduism happened in Rajasthan near Ajmer. Muslims have these âmaulvisâ who keep wandering through Muslims communities through out the country to check that Islamic rules are followed stringently. In some village in Rajasthan they saw that people had Hindu-Muslim mixed names because of cultural background and forced them to keep just Muslim names. These villagers got angry and went to Ajmerâs Pushkar and said since Islam demands them to get rid of something which is has been in their tradition for centuries they want to get rid of Islam itself; and after all their ancestors were Hindus. When maulvis knew the incident they warned that they will burn their whole village. When RSS heard about it, 30 volunteers instantly came to village on cycles for protection. Few days later, whole village celebrated Janmasthami and got converted to Hinduism. Getting inspired by that nearby village also got converted. One by one total 70,000 Muslims were re-converted."
Som
<!--QuoteBegin-Bharatvarsh+Nov 4 2005, 03:06 AM-->QUOTE(Bharatvarsh @ Nov 4 2005, 03:06 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->even those who work actively for hinduism agree on the point that brahmins have been responsible for degradation of hinduism... let me quote Shurdarshanji(RSS) who told this historical incident... there are many like this... and BTW I really praise RSS for great work they are doing even though media is doing its best to tarnish their image.....
"During Ranjit Singhâs time, a section of Kashmiri Muslims requested him to let them convert back to Hinduism because they realized dark realities of Islam. They were summoned near Jhelum for the ceremony for re-conversion. But then 7-8 âraj-purohitâ(Kashmiri Pundits) stood in Jhelum water with just their head out and said if Ranjit Singh lets them convert to Hinduism they would kill themselves and sin of âbrahmin-hatyaâ would fall on Ranjit. So they had their way. By those Punditâs arrogance and foolishness their descendants got kicked out of valley by descendants of same Muslims who wanted to come to Hinduism. They might be just small section of Muslims but I just wanted to make a point. So Hinduism should adapt itself to allow these kinds of movements."
but ultimately, our purpose is not to blame each other but move forward.... and we shd not let this discussion come in between and have feeling of hatred...
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Does Shudarshanji provide any primary sources as references for his claim, most of these antedotes travel all over the net through word of mouth but have no proof in real life, an example is the story about Brahmins refusing to recognise Shivaji as a king because he was not a Kshatriya, now this is popular and is taken as a gospel truth all over the net and in real life and I also used to believe it but on the Yahoo group "Indian Civilization", Kalavai Venkat asked the people who proagate this to prove it by providing a primary reference and not one of them could do that, this coming from RSS supremo does not mean it becomes truth, RSS also says a lot of nonsense about Islam being tolerant and as good a religion as Sanatana Dharma, a good start for anyone who calls himself Hindu is to read Voice of India books available online at www.voi.org/books.
And I think we will end this debate now since the real topic of the thread is getting sidetracked.
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RSS has done a lot to improve caste system... another incident told by dear Sudarshanji is
"Actually successful and interesting story related re-conversion to Hinduism happened in Rajasthan near Ajmer. Muslims have these âmaulvisâ who keep wandering through Muslims communities through out the country to check that Islamic rules are followed stringently. In some village in Rajasthan they saw that people had Hindu-Muslim mixed names because of cultural background and forced them to keep just Muslim names. These villagers got angry and went to Ajmerâs Pushkar and said since Islam demands them to get rid of something which is has been in their tradition for centuries they want to get rid of Islam itself; and after all their ancestors were Hindus. When maulvis knew the incident they warned that they will burn their whole village. When RSS heard about it, 30 volunteers instantly came to village on cycles for protection. Few days later, whole village celebrated Janmasthami and got converted to Hinduism. Getting inspired by that nearby village also got converted. One by one total 70,000 Muslims were re-converted."
Som
<!--QuoteBegin-Bharatvarsh+Nov 4 2005, 03:06 AM-->QUOTE(Bharatvarsh @ Nov 4 2005, 03:06 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->even those who work actively for hinduism agree on the point that brahmins have been responsible for degradation of hinduism... let me quote Shurdarshanji(RSS) who told this historical incident... there are many like this... and BTW I really praise RSS for great work they are doing even though media is doing its best to tarnish their image.....
"During Ranjit Singhâs time, a section of Kashmiri Muslims requested him to let them convert back to Hinduism because they realized dark realities of Islam. They were summoned near Jhelum for the ceremony for re-conversion. But then 7-8 âraj-purohitâ(Kashmiri Pundits) stood in Jhelum water with just their head out and said if Ranjit Singh lets them convert to Hinduism they would kill themselves and sin of âbrahmin-hatyaâ would fall on Ranjit. So they had their way. By those Punditâs arrogance and foolishness their descendants got kicked out of valley by descendants of same Muslims who wanted to come to Hinduism. They might be just small section of Muslims but I just wanted to make a point. So Hinduism should adapt itself to allow these kinds of movements."
but ultimately, our purpose is not to blame each other but move forward.... and we shd not let this discussion come in between and have feeling of hatred...
Above all we are Indians...<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Does Shudarshanji provide any primary sources as references for his claim, most of these antedotes travel all over the net through word of mouth but have no proof in real life, an example is the story about Brahmins refusing to recognise Shivaji as a king because he was not a Kshatriya, now this is popular and is taken as a gospel truth all over the net and in real life and I also used to believe it but on the Yahoo group "Indian Civilization", Kalavai Venkat asked the people who proagate this to prove it by providing a primary reference and not one of them could do that, this coming from RSS supremo does not mean it becomes truth, RSS also says a lot of nonsense about Islam being tolerant and as good a religion as Sanatana Dharma, a good start for anyone who calls himself Hindu is to read Voice of India books available online at www.voi.org/books.
And I think we will end this debate now since the real topic of the thread is getting sidetracked.
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