06-07-2005, 06:01 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-gangajal+Jun 7 2005, 02:31 AM-->QUOTE(gangajal @ Jun 7 2005, 02:31 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Of course there can be no world if Brahman is without a second and is unchanging since the world coming out of Brahman will change Brahman. </b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Gangajal,
The real problem, if at all, that I see in Shankaraâs monism is the need for Gods, and our chanting âBhaja Govindamâ, given the nature of Brahman and the individual human being.
I am trying hard to understand what you are saying here. Let me draw a diagram to see if this is what you mean:
<b>Brahman --(Maya Sakthi)--> Phenomenal Universe (Apparent Brahman)</b>
What you are saying is that Brahman cannot be unique as the Phenomenal Universe exists due to Brahman creating it. I find this argument untenable. There is no reason to believe that Universe came out of Brahman. Further, in my understanding Maya is our egotistical perception of what is essentially a single entity - Brahman. This transformation business is news to me. Could you point me to any good literature that talks about this transformation? Where does Shankara talk about this?
I must confess that I have come to ideas based on what I perceived on my own, and adopted those ideas expounded by the acharyas that were congruous with my own.
Gangajal,
The real problem, if at all, that I see in Shankaraâs monism is the need for Gods, and our chanting âBhaja Govindamâ, given the nature of Brahman and the individual human being.
I am trying hard to understand what you are saying here. Let me draw a diagram to see if this is what you mean:
<b>Brahman --(Maya Sakthi)--> Phenomenal Universe (Apparent Brahman)</b>
What you are saying is that Brahman cannot be unique as the Phenomenal Universe exists due to Brahman creating it. I find this argument untenable. There is no reason to believe that Universe came out of Brahman. Further, in my understanding Maya is our egotistical perception of what is essentially a single entity - Brahman. This transformation business is news to me. Could you point me to any good literature that talks about this transformation? Where does Shankara talk about this?
I must confess that I have come to ideas based on what I perceived on my own, and adopted those ideas expounded by the acharyas that were congruous with my own.