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Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Naresh - 03-06-2008 <!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Mar 6 2008, 07:49 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Mar 6 2008, 07:49 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Wow, Now what he is going to do, catch a first flight to US, but now every fundo on street will beat him in US. Saudi Arabia or Dubai may be right place for him to enjoy future houris. [right][snapback]79365[/snapback][/right] <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> <b>Mudy Ji :</b> Mush will have to take his Tush out only when Asfaq Kiyani gains Massaâs confidence that he can âControlâ the Democratically(sic) Elected Leaders. Cheers <!--emo&:beer--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cheers.gif' /><!--endemo--> Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Guest - 03-07-2008 <b>Karachi power cuts hit millions</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Pakistan's state-run utility said it had cut supplies to Karachi because the city's power company had not paid its bills. Outages occurred in the morning. Some power was later restored, and officials say it will be fully back on within a day or two <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--emo&tupid--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pakee.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pakee.gif' /><!--endemo--> Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Naresh - 03-07-2008 Latest News from the Worldâs Most Preferred Destination of Foreign Investors : <b>1. Pakistan Railways suffered Rs 2.609 Billion losses in Dec violence</b> <b>2. Pakistan to miss wheat crop target : officials</b> <b>3. Pakistanâs Forex reserves dip to US $14.063 Billion</b> <b>4. Pakistanâs Import bill set to hit 35 Billion US Dollars in FY08</b> Cheers <!--emo&:beer--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cheers.gif' /><!--endemo--> Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Naresh - 03-08-2008 [center] <!--emo&:flush--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' /><!--endemo--><b><span style='color:green'>US yearns for Pak capitulation</span></b> <!--emo&:flush--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' /><!--endemo-->[/center] [center]<b><span style='color:green'>Islamabad rejects new demands Shireen M Mazari</span></b>[/center] ISLAMABAD : Pakistan has given them bases and logistic support as well as intelligence sharing but what the US is now demanding from Islamabad has shocked the Defence and Foreign Ministries and the initial reaction has been a rejection of what are highly intrusive demands for the US military and auxiliary personnel in Pakistan. This scribe has learnt of the latest set of 11 demands the US has put to the Government of Pakistan through the Ministry of Defence. As one goes down the list of the demands, they become increasingly untenable. <b>The first demand</b> is for granting of a status that is accorded to the technical and administrative staff of the US embassy. <b>The second demand</b> is that these personnel be allowed to enter and exit Pakistan on mere National Identification (for example a driving licence) that is without any visas. <b>Next, the US is demanding</b> that Pakistan accept the legality of all US licences, which would include arms licences. <b>This is followed by the demand</b> that all these personnel be allowed to carry arms and wear uniforms as they wish, across the whole of Pakistan. <b>Then comes a demand <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>that directly undermines our sovereignty</span></b> â that the US criminal jurisdiction be applicable in Pakistan to US nationals. In other words, these personnel would not be subject to Pakistani law. In territories of US allies like Japan, this condition exists in areas where there are US bases and has become a source of major resentment in Japan, especially because there are frequent cases of US soldiers raping Japanese women and getting away with it. In the context of Pakistan, the demand to make the US personnel above the Pakistani law would not be limited to any one part of the country! So the Pakistani citizens will become fair game for US military personnel as well as other auxiliary staff like military contractors. <b>The next demand</b> is for exemption from all taxes, including indirect taxes like excise duty, etc. <b>The seventh demand</b> is for inspection-free import and export of all goods and materials. So we would not know what they are bringing in or taking out of our country â including Gandhara art as well as sensitive materials. <b>At number eight</b> is the demand for free movement of vehicles, vessels including aircraft, without landing or parking fees! <b>Then, at number nine,</b> there is a specific demand that selected US contractors should also be exempted from tax payments. <b>At number ten there is the demand</b> for free of cost use of US telecommunication systems and using all necessary radio spectrum. The final demand is the most dangerous and is linked to the demand for non-applicability of Pakistani law for US personnel. <b>Demand number eleven</b> is for a waiver of all claims to damage to loss or destruction of othersâ property, or death to personnel or armed forces or civilians. The US has tried to be smart by not using the word "other" for death but, given the context, clearly it implies that US personnel can maim and kill Pakistanis and destroy our infrastructure and weaponry with impunity. <b>Effectively, if accepted, these demands would give the US personnel complete freedom to do as they please in Pakistan â in fact, they would take control of events in areas of their interest.</b> It is no wonder then that Pakistan's Defence Ministry, the Foreign Office and the Law Ministry have reacted with complete rejection. But, as one official source feared, "This is just the opening salvo of demands and the US can be expected to bargain in order to seek the most critical of these demands." As he put it, "Any hesitation or weakness that the US senses on part of Pakistan will put us on a fatal slippery slope to total submission. This would result in increasing instability in the country." So, for those who feel there is bonhomie and complete understanding between the Pakistan military and the US military, and the trouble only exists at the political level, it is time to do a serious rethink. The first step in dealing rationally with our indigenous terrorist problem holistically and credibly is to create space between ourselves and the US. <b>As the US adage goes : "There is no free lunch". For Pakistan lunching with the US has become unacceptably costly.</b> When US embassy in Islamabad was approached for reaction to this report, Elizabeth Colton, US Embassy Spokesperson, said, "We will not dignify this attack with a comment." Cheers <!--emo&:beer--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cheers.gif' /><!--endemo--> Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Shambhu - 03-08-2008 Madam (above article) has sweetly driven the ball right back past the bowler in the line where she talks about the "eleven demands" becoming "untenable". See? 11 is not 10. Subliminal typographical sophistilogy, which I really and truly admire. In General, though, I do not agree with her. Its like a condom waking up and looking at itself in the mirror, and saying, "Y'allah! I am a condom! How did this happen?" Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Naresh - 03-09-2008 <img src='http://www.dawn.com.pk/2008/03/08/images/cartoon.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> Cheers <!--emo&:beer--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cheers.gif' /><!--endemo--> Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Naresh - 03-09-2008 [center] <!--emo&:flush--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' /><!--endemo--><b><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>Outlandish</span></b> <!--emo&:flush--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' /><!--endemo-->[/center] <b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>Of many misfortunes that have fallen on Pakistan during the last eight years, the worst is the loss of dignity of individual and humiliation of the nation, through loss of sovereignty. Musharraf's policy of appeasement to the foreign powers has escalated this process to the point that Pakistanis abroad are an object of suspicion and in their own land are denied basic human needs. There has been a constant erosion of their self-respect at every level. The manner in which Pakistanis seeking visa from the US and EU embassies are treated is a sad spectacle. In the name of security, the applicant regardless of his status is subjected to inquisition by the embassy officials. Like criminals, they are fingerprinted, profiled and intrusive questions regarding their family and antecedents border on insults. Even basic courtesies are denied by the visa officers and in many instances turned down without assigning any reason.</span></b> There have been some deplorable examples in the recent past. Denial of visa to former chief of staff by the US embassy and the shameful treatment of the son and brother of former prime minister by immigration officials in London, illustrate this unfortunate attitude. The instances are legion. Shahbaz Sharif appeared the other day personally for finger printing at the US visa office in total disregard of his position as the president of the most popular political party: and soon to be chief minister of Punjab. The silence on the part of our authorities is criminal. The fundamental principle of bilateral relations is reciprocity. Why can't our embassies notify that their nationals wishing to visit Pakistan would be similarly treated? A line should be the drawn in terms of conduct by the foreign missions in Pakistan, and sternly advised not to cross it. Our political leaders and those in power share equal blame for such a sorry state of affairs. On sensitive political issues diplomats are approached by senior leaders, complaints filed with them seeking support on matters of purely domestic competence. No wonder, these diplomats behave like viceroy and treat Pakistan as a dominion state. They have been encouraged to brazenly interfere in our internal affairs. Micro-management of the political set-up in Pakistan is indulged in and gratuitous advice rendered on critical issues like the formation of government. The foreign office quietly accepts this unacceptable behaviour in total violation of Vienna Convention on diplomatic practices and protocol. The reports keep coming in of the contacts between the envoys and the political leaders. The prime minister-in-waiting and others of similar stature call on the ambassador at their residence not only demeaning their person but also a slur and slight on national honour and dignity. The rot does not stop here. State interests and official secrets are played around to gain the favour of a particular country. Protocol and prudence are thrown to the winds. A lowly placed official visiting Pakistan does not settle for a meeting with any person other then the president of the republic; who too contrary to all precedents and protocol lowers himself to the level of the visitor and grants audience. The political leaders aspiring to power or to settle a score with political rival indulge in most irresponsible statements and disclosures which directly impact on national interests and image. Both President Musharraf and Benazir Bhutto threw caution to the wind and made disclosures, which were not only a grave violation of the oath of secrecy, but also hurt the national interests grievously. The details of A Q Khan's misadventures reported in the book titled In The Line Of Fire and BB's revelations in the revised edition of her biography about the reckless behaviour by two former army chiefs are a standing evidence of Pakistani leaders irrational behaviour, fuelling the Western concerns about the irresponsible and emotional make up of Pakistani leaders. ISI has also been accused of similar bizarre aggressive and outlandish schemes. She has plainly held ISI as the patron of Osama bin Laden and other international terrorists, and carried away to find "some degree of causality that most major terrorist attacks took place when the extremists did not have to deal with a democratic Pakistani government." Such declarations and disclosures could deeply harm states interests and the image has not entered the calculations of anyone. Nor the law of the land applied on the delinquents. The practice continues. The world is already weary of Pakistan as a 'nursery' and 'sanctuary' of terrorists. Imagine the consequences of these revelations on a frightened Europe and traumatised America. Little wonder, today an average Pakistani is looked upon abroad with apprehension, as a potential terrorist. Enough damage has been done to Pakistan by such attitude. It is time to arrest this trend effectively. The new government must learn from the past mistakes and put foreign envoys and others in their place, cautioning them against crossing the line and adhere to international norms. <i>The writer is a former ambassador</i> Cheers <!--emo&:beer--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cheers.gif' /><!--endemo--> Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Naresh - 03-11-2008 <b>US Dollars 12.4 Billion trade deficit in 8 months</b> <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->ISLAMABAD - The new political government will have to face a challenging task in the form of <b>trade deficit that has already touched the alarming figures of US $ 12.4 billion,</b> just short of the annual estimated target, only during the first eight months of the current financial year 2007-08 and reflects a growth of 39 per cent over the same period of the last fiscal year.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Cheers <!--emo&:beer--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cheers.gif' /><!--endemo--> Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - acharya - 03-11-2008 http://youtube.com/watch?v=b4zvwPtLPVY <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->pashtungirl (1 month ago) ohhh. my Allah. this fucking general died. now he will answer to Allah.he killed muslims fighter. no one can help him now.even american can't help him. he was the slave of punjabe pigs.who said punjabi r muslims.they are indian. no one can change this what the f*(k is pakistan? NWFP is not the part of pakistan.what is our right in this fucking drity country? you fucking punjabi,and sandhi people take water from pakhtun area and gas from balochistan. you are thief.nwfp was part of Afghanistan, kashmir isn't part of shite pakistan and balochs are not part of this sh1t country. what you have if we don't give you water, electricity and gas?pakistan army is nothing without pashtoons.we want our right now.you are indian pigs<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> http://youtube.com/watch?v=npsREh2RZxE http://youtube.com/user/islampakistan <b> You are fighting against Pakistan and Pakistan is in the name of Islam so beware of us Pakistanis. You can never rule on our soil. Our army should crush you people. If I am Pak army officer I will fight you (so called mujahids) as my religious duty to save my land and people </b> Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Bodhi - 03-11-2008 In second video: Olivercromwellvs Allah is busy fucking seventy virgin WHere is he to help our pashtun people. Let us let go of this sh1t relgion of Islam and we will be ok arbabsheryar77 Fuckkk youuuuu tell me ur name ur address i will f*(k u there and slaughter u there for this comment,,,i wish i wish to allah just for once,be this man infront,i would have slaughtered u there ohhh allah i wish i was there allah hooo akbar |