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Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Guest - 02-18-2008
<b>Vote Is Expected to Further Weaken Musharraf</b>
Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Guest - 02-18-2008
<b>Ex-ISI chief sees Iran-like revolution in Pak</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Former chief of Pakistan's powerful Inter-Services Intelligence has said, "an Iran-like revolution" is possible in the country if President Pervez Musharraf [Images] does not step down immediately.
"If Musharraf does not step down, we may have to think (about forcibly removing him) because, after all, the country is more important," former Inter Services Intelligence chief Hamid Gul has said in an interview to the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.
<b>"We don't want the army and people to be clashing on the streets. That would be a disaster -- a civil war or if we are lucky a revolution, something like the Iranian revolution (against the Shah in 1979),"</b> he said.
"<span style='color:red'>Pakistan was ripe for such possibilities. As a trained military man, one is obliged to think of these possibilities. And one is obliged to act as well,"</span> Gul was quoted as saying by Pakistan International Network.
Asked whether this meant his advocating a coup against Musharraf, he evasively said: "No, we are the ex-servicemen, not the serving men. I am saying to link arms with civil society -- with the lawyers, the students. If we join them, it will have greater pressure on Pervez Musharraf to get out of office."
<b>"Musharraf is the only impediment. If he goes, the judiciary can be restored to its original place. This will bring instant relief to people -- the relief is a psychological phenomenon,"</b> the former ISI chief said.
<b>"I hope Musharraf does pay heed to our advice and steps down. This will be good for him, the army and the nation. Everything else will fall in place," </b>Gul added.
Gul said if Musharraf stays adamant, the politicians should join hands to save Pakistan. After the February 18 elections, they should refuse to take oath till he resigns.
"What will be his options? With civil society up in arms already supporting them, they will get a big moral boost. He will have no choice and America -- who wants Pervez Musharraf to continue in office -- would have failed," he said.
Asked who will rise against Musharraf when the opposition has been suppressed, he said if the army stays out of the body politic -- as Army Chief Gen Kayani has hinted -- all elected representatives should refuse to take oath till Musharraf steps down.
In reply to allegations in Benazir Bhutto's [Images] recently released book in which she mentioned him as one of the four senior members of the set-up plotting to kill her, Gul said he was shocked because he had served as ISI director general during her first tenure and enjoyed an excellent relationship with her.
"We enjoyed very good social relations. She used to send me books. She would write letters to me and I would write to her," Gul said.
Though they had differences, he said, "That could not have possibly become the basis of allegations."
Gul said he had sent her a legal notice and later suggested to Asif Zardari that they demand a trial. He was ready to defend himself.
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Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Guest - 02-19-2008
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Former Pakistan Minister defeated </b>
PTI | Islamabad
Zubaida Jalal, a former Minister in Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf's Cabinet, was defeated in Monday's parliamentary polls, according to one of the first unofficial results reported by TV channels. In initial trends which does not augur well for Musharraf, his close confidante Sheikh Rasheed Ahmed, was trailing in a prestigious seat in Rawalpindi as counting of votes was underway in Pakistan General elections.
Initial reports showed mixed trends with Pakistan People's Party (PPP)and Nawaz Sharif's PML(N) doing well in Sindh and Punjab respectively. Muttahida Quami Movement(MQM) was faring well in Karachi, early trends showed. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Guest - 02-19-2008
<b>2008 Election Results</b>
Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Guest - 02-19-2008
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Gas pipelines blown up in Pakistan Quetta,</b> Feb 18 (Reuters) Miscreants blew up two pipelines supplying natural gas to a main plant in the town of Sui in Balochistan province early Monday, officials said. <b>Baluch Republican Army </b>claimed responsibility for the attacks. No further details were immediately available(Posted @ 20:30 PST)<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Naresh - 02-19-2008
[center]<b><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>Latest TWIRP Elections 2008 @ 23:30 GMT - 18.02.2008</span></b>[/center]
Cheers <!--emo&:beer--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cheers.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Guest - 02-19-2008
<b>Pakistanis deal election defeat to Musharraf</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->ISLAMABAD, Pakistan: Pakistanis dealt a crushing defeat to President Pervez Musharraf in parliamentary elections Monday, in what government and opposition politicians said was a firm rejection of his policies since 2001 and those of his close ally, the United States.
Almost all the leading figures in the Pakistan Muslim League-Q, the party that has governed for the last five years under Musharraf, lost their seats, including the leader of the party,<b> Chaudhry Shujaat Hussein, the former speaker of parliament, Chaudhry Amir Hussein, and six ministers</b>.
Though official results would not be announced until Tuesday, early returns indicated that the vote would usher in a prime minister from one of the opposition parties, and opened the prospect of a parliament that would move to undo many of Musharraf's policies and that may even try to remove him
........<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->From<b> unofficial results the private news channel, Aaj Television, forecast that the Pakistan Peoples Party would win 110 seats in the 272-seat national assembly, with Sharif's Pakistan Muslim League-N taking 100 seats</b>.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Can he rig now? Or this is a rigged election, so that he is now king maker, giving 50-50 to both of them. <!--emo&
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Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - ramana - 02-19-2008
You got it Mudy. He is the king maker and that the rigging that was done.
Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Guest - 02-19-2008
Mushy is maha badmash.
He had fooled everyone.
He need 2.5 years of civilian rule so that Pak Army can stage coup again and stay in power for next 10 years.
Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Guest - 02-19-2008
<b>Winners will be allowed to form govt: president</b>
Here he is telling them you are at my/Paki army mercy. <!--emo&
--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->Result is very interesting, we will see lot of firework and circus in Assembly, It will be better then Indian Parliament.
Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Guest - 02-19-2008
U.S. strikes within Pakistan â without notice
Wow. What happened here? Anything to do with election results?
Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Guest - 02-19-2008
<b>Women banned from voting in parts of Mianwali, Sargodha</b>
Islamabad, Feb 18 (UNI) Women have been banned from voting in the general elections in some areas of Mianwali and Sargodha as per a 60-year-old tradition which bars them from exercising their franchise.
The panchayat in Union Council 33 Paikhel, which falls in the provincial assembly constituency PP44 in Mianwali, decided not to allow women to cast their votes, upholding the decades-old rule.
There are 18,000 registered voters in the area and women constitute 7500 votes.
An independent candidate from the provincial seat was also reportedly a member of the panchayat which ruled to defranchise women, Geo TV reported today.
Meanwhile, elders at four Bhera villages in Sargodha have also taken similar decisions. These villages fall within the national assembly constituency NA-64 and provincial assembly constituency PP-28, where 4,479 women voters have been deprived of their right to vote.
Polling for the general elections began this morning amid unprecedented security across the country.
Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Guest - 02-19-2008
<b>Clark unwilling to make Pak tour</b> <!--emo&:beer--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cheers.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Adelaide, Feb 19 (UNI) Australian fast bowler Stuart Clark has expressed concern about the Pakistan tour scheduled to begin next month.
''Everyone's concerned about it,'' Clark said. ''Anyone going to Pakistan would be concerned at the moment.'' ''We're still not quite sure what's happening. We're waiting for Cricket Australia to make a decision.'' he added.
Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Guest - 02-19-2008
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->U.S. strikes within Pakistan â without notice
Wow. What happened here? Anything to do with election results?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This incidence took place predawn hours of Jan. 29, nothing new, Paki Army will claim that it was Paki missile as they have done dozens of time before.
Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Guest - 02-20-2008
<b>Call for Musharraf to go after election </b>
Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Guest - 02-20-2008
Nawaz has emerged only as 'Punjab-centeric' party. In provincial assemblies they got:
Punjab 102 seats,
Sindh 0 seats,
NWFP 5 seats,
Baluchistan 0 seats
PML-Q got
Punjab 66 seats,
Sindh 9 seats,
NWFP 6 seats,
Baluchistan 17 seats.
The latest seats won till now, of National Assembly:
PPP - 86
MQM - 19
PML-Q - 39
PML-N - 67
ANP - 10
MMA - 4
Indept - 26
Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Guest - 02-20-2008
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Sharif wants Mush to go, Zardari mum</b>
Pioneer.com
Agencies | LahoreÂ
Pakistan People's Party co-chairman Asif Ali Zardari and Pakistan Muslim League(N) chief Nawaz Sharif, even while indicating that they can come together to form a coalition Government at the Centre and in the four Provinces, on Tuesday expressed divergent views on two crucial issues: The reinstatement of sacked Supreme Court judges and the continuation of President Pervez Musharraf in office.
Sharif, briefing newspersons in Lahore, made it clear that he would like to see Musharraf exit office and the sacked judges, including Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammed Chaudhry, reinstated.
In Islamabad, Zardari dodged questions on these issues and refused to give any categorical replies.
Sharif told newspersons that he would meet Zardari on Thursday, while insisting that the deposed members of the superior judiciary should be reinstated so that they can decide on the legality of Musharraf's re-election as President in October last year.
"I have already discussed this matter with Mr Asif Zardari and I told him that Pakistan's judiciary's independence is very strongly linked with its restoration. It is dependent on the restoration of the judiciary. Unless the judges are restored, the judiciary cannot attain any independence," he said.
Sharif said the PML (N) did not accept the Emergency imposed by Musharraf last year or the sacking of the judges who had not endorsed the measure. "The steps taken by Musharraf during the Emergency will have to be rolled back," he asserted
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King is making deal with another corrupt Zardari to keep Paki Army biggest enemy Sharif away from power. <!--emo&
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Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - ramana - 02-20-2008
Night Watch report on TSP election results
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Pakistan:Â <b>An early New York Times headline mourned that no clear winner emerged from todayâs elections. It did not mention that there is a clear loser:Â musharraf. </b> Most ministers in the government, the president of musharrafâs party, the chief ministers of the provinces and musharrafâs main backers-- the Chaudhry political machine of Gujarat -- were voted from office in landslides for the opposition. <b>The vote was a referendum on musharraf. His obduracy has ensured that none of his policies are safe because they now have no advocates in any of the legislatures for the next five years.</b>
Local press has projected that Bhuttoâs Pakistan People's Party (PPP) will win 110 seats and Nawaz Sharifâs Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) will 100 seats of the 268 open for direct election. An additional 60 seats are reserved for women and minorities. <b>The PPP and PML-N leaders announced their coalition agreement on Friday.</b>
The pro-musharraf Pakistan Muslim League-Q (PML-Q) is projected to take 20-30 seats; the same number as the Pashtun nationalist Awami National Party, and several other small parties. <b>The vote is such a rout that a leader of PML-Q and a personal friend of musharraf said today that the âparty is finished.â If that was more than rhetorical flourish, there might not be an opposition party. Then musharraf would be in danger of impeachment. The constitution requires a three-fourthâs vote of the National Assembly to impeach the president, which translates into 256 seats in the parliament.</b>
<b>A few hours after the size of the defeat became clear, the government eased up on the restrictions against Aitzaz Ahsan, the leader of the lawyersâ movement that has opposed the president.</b> Musharraf announced he would work with the winner. Yesterday he promised to act as a âfather figureâ for the new prime minister. <b>He did not say that he would keep his word to step down if the election went against him â which he made in a TV interview on 3 February -- or whether likely impeachment moves against him would change his paternal attitude.</b>
In the provinces, The News projected that <b>Nawaz Sharifâs PML-N will control the Punjab assembly and might gain a majority</b>. <b>The PPPâs stronghold is Sindh Province. Most of the reports of vote tampering, ballot box theft and intimidation occurred in Sindh. The turnout in Baluchistan was low but the Islamists did not fare well there either.</b>
In the North West Frontier Province, <b>local TV projected that the secular Pashtun nationalist Awami National Party has routed the Islamists. The head of the largest Islamist party and coalition, Maulana Fazlur Rehman of the Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam, and the Mutahiddah Majlis-i-Amal (MMA)was defeated in Rehman's hometown in Dera Ismail Khan, a district of North-West Frontier Province, GEO TV reported. </b>
A sidebar in North West Frontier Province is that many women voted in defiance of threats of âtraditional tribal âpunishment by male fundamentalist religious leaders.
Many observers have concluded the election was free and fair, apparently based on the size of the landslide repudiation of musharraf and his cronies. The margin of musharrafâs defeat is so large that it obscures and minimizes the impact of widespread fraud. In some constituencies that had close races, voter fraud by the local polling agents with police support has been charged. Boxes of pre-marked ballots were discovered in Sindh. One candidate was shot. Voters were intimidated but apparently even the agents of intimidation voted against musharraf.
The election sets the stage for the constitutional struggle. <b>All of Pakistanâs policies resulted from musharrafâs use of his position as head of state to usurp the power of the prime minister as head of government.</b>Â The presidency is a figurehead in Pakistanâs constitutional system unless parliament abdicates its authority, as it had done under musharraf through the rigged elections of 2002.
The voters have corrected the system. <b>Power will reside in the cabinet and the cabinet will be anti-US, as are most Pakistanis, according to all the polls. Both the PPP and the PML-N leaders campaigned against musharrafâs pro-US policies because the US openly backed musharraf the man, not Pakistan the country. President Bush called musharraf a US ally in the war on terror. He did not say Pakistan was. Assistant Secretary of State Boucher called musharraf indispensable. If those sentiments are accurate, US policy shares the fortunes of musharraf.</b>
The US will not get credit for pressuring musharraf into holding elections; only for not stopping his attack on the judiciary, his attack on the Red Mosque and his national emergency.
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Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Guest - 02-20-2008
<b>Musharraf aides meet Zardari, ask him not to go with Sharif</b>
Now can I say, I told you so. <!--emo&
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Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Guest - 02-20-2008
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Pakistan president won't step down</b> AP - 9 minutes ago
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - Pakistan's president will not step down as head of state and intends to serve out his five-year term, his spokesman said, despite a sweeping victory by his opponents in an election that President Bush on Wednesday judged to be fair.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why he will?
Fools!!! now he can enjoy Mujara with Zardari.
Mushy and Zardari both are thinking they are Sonia of India, If Sonia can fool billions of India. These two can fool millions of Pakistan.
Good going.